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Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by smanuel »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #119

"What we want from Apple isn't new technology. We want human warmth — a possibility of living a more fulfilled, meaningful life." I think this sums up nicely what's wrong here: The belief that technology will make your life more fulfilled or meaningful. I didn't watch the live keynote (I don't have the required Apple gear) but saw excerpts on Youtube, and frankly, I find the level of religiousness surrounding this ev…

> Take the metro / subway in any big, affluent city these days, and look around you. What do you see? People whose eyes are glued to their phone screens, oblivious to the persons around them, looking for "human warmth" in their virtual companion. That's really not the society I want to live in.

This old photo (http://imgur.com/WkHHpZ1) comes to mind when I read this. Don't blame technology.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by jacquesm »

ThePhysicist wrote: post #119

"What we want from Apple isn't new technology. We want human warmth — a possibility of living a more fulfilled, meaningful life." I think this sums up nicely what's wrong here: The belief that technology will make your life more fulfilled or meaningful. I didn't watch the live keynote (I don't have the required Apple gear) but saw excerpts on Youtube, and frankly, I find the level of religiousness surrounding this ev…

The subway is just a horizontal and larger version of the elevator, a place where people are trying very hard to not have to interact with those around them. The trip is short enough that you can't really talk, probably you see the same faces every day and you feel awkward. Situations like that give people a ton of reasons to look for an excuse, be it a book, a newspaper or their phone. They're also cranky, it's early morning before their first cup-of-favorite-beverage or late in the day when they simply want to get home from the office. It's a collectively murderous mood, not unlike what you'd get if you put all the people in a traffic jam into a single box.

Compare with trains and you see the opposite, people get to talk to each other, make friends.

Other than that I completely agree with you, technology will not by itself make your life more fulfilled or meaningful and quite possibly will make it less so.

The way this stuff is marketed is as though the mere ownership of gadget 'x' will make you more attractive/interesting/happy. And that's never the case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedonic_treadmill

and

http://www.listenmoneymatters.com/materialism-is-killing-you...

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by Yizahi »

Author fails to see that iWatch is actually a single model, without any variation at all. Same OS and apps, same controls, same hardware. Counting straps as different models is really silly. And besides, not a lot of people are fans of metal bracelets.

Second - if we are speculating about how Steve would see iPhone 6 then saying that he would keep THAT design and only fiddle with diagonal is also silly. Steve would have imagined something way more efficient and pretty - no button maybe, maybe radically different materials for body (and solve stupid stripes vs. radio dilemma), maybe it would be a flip or slider, maybe... maybe... Definitely not just 0.2 difference in diag.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by NicoJuicy »

sbuk wrote: post #95
catshirt wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "2nd, they don't care about older-than-3 iphones" great, so we agree.

Please show us an example of another smartphone manufacturer that does better.

Google's updates make your phone go faster, while Apple's updates make your phone go slower ? :-) (Harvard Study) http://goo.gl/wyAQYE

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by mironathetin »

"Why do I need it?"

That is indeed the question I ask myself since the introduction of the iPhone. And it includes the iPad and certainly the iWatch.

I am a Mac user and although the old Mac models were not always better technologically, Jobs made us feel good when we used them. Just think about the awful time, when he had to re-sell the G4 to us again and again, because there was no progress with the G5. Who could have kept the spirit alive, if not Steve? That's one of his great achievements. That's not anymore. Apple has completely lost its focus with Macs. If Linux were not so bad, I'd be working on Thinkpads again, or Vaios.

The iPod when I first bought one of the 5GB original white ones, was such a great thing to use. It reminded me of the walkmans but it was so much better. No need to explain. But, in the meantime I use a Cowon, because it sounds so much better.

So, yes, there is truth in this article.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by 72deluxe »

GuiA wrote: post #18

Hacker News: your premier source for Steve Jobs fan fiction. (laughs) Does the author really think that Steve Jobs would have ever said "When I open up a website on Safari, I don't have to strain my eyes anymore"? They're still selling 5S and 5C! Not even Asus would disparage their previous products like that. The rest of the piece is just as bad and devoid of substance. (Steve rolls in his grave)

The audience responses (audience gasps) was like reading a script to The Simpsons. Like a dumb mob audience.

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by jacquesm »

GCPCo wrote: post #81
MCRed wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frankly, I'm glad Cook is not trying to imitate Jobs. Imagine if Cook had gone on stage and followed the script jiggly wrote. It would have come off completely insincere. Sincerety is why Jobs was great, and it's why Cook is great. He doesn't BS us, as Jiggity seems to want. But the thing is, no matter what Apple does people will complain. There's always another way that they could say would have been better. If Appl…

Again, you are missing the point. Steve identified the insight (the WHY) behind a product before he introduced the details and design. Cook & team skip all the important foreplay. It makes the products feel less Apple-y, less inspired, and simply, more like everyone else's. I love Apple and will keep buying their phones, the watch, and Macs. But for some of us, the company is also part of the products.

Are you using a sockpuppet?

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by 72deluxe »

nzealand wrote: post #121

I posted this a few days ago.... What would todays presentation would have looked like if Steve Jobs was still around? -There would have been fewer leaks before the big unveiling. -There would have been fewer features mentioned in the presentation. -There would have been fewer features in the product in favor of a faster ship date. -There would have been fewer choices in terms of colors, straps and models. This is a…

Yes. Apple's creations didn't all come singularly from Steve's mind. Apple's creations came from the team there.

Apple is not, and was not, one man.

It would be foolish to think that the entire company worked like some Borg collective where Steve was the head, and all Apple drones would wither and collapse without him. They clearly haven't.

When you buy food from Tesco, do you thank Jack Cohen and marvel at how he could think of so many foods and products and innovate so well? How will Tesco continue to succeed now that he's gone?!

Re: Steve Jobs Introduces the iPhone 6 and Apple Watch

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Post by Aloha »

It's not 'the 60'

It's 12 Cases: Stainless (38/42mm) Black Stainless (38/42mm) Aluminum (38/42mm) Space Gray Aluminum (38/42mm) Rose Gold (38/42mm) Yellow Gold (38/42mm)

and 15 bands: 5 Colors of Sport Band (Pink, Blue, White, Green, and Black) Classic Buckle Milanese Loop Modern Buckle (Pink, Blue and Brown) Leather Loop (Stone, Brown and Blue) Stainless Steel Link (Stainless and Black)

In reality, I'd bet when this thing ships it's going to be the 12 watch sku's then an additional 15 sku's for the band,, the combination thereof to be assembled at the point of purchase.

You cant expect to package an sell any watch like a phone, it can't be one size fits all, not to get any real market penetration, because with jewelry, the technology takes a back seat to the appearance.

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