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Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by guilbep »

Dolimiter wrote: post #92
guilbep wrote: post #80

Just for information. I was using sublimeText 3. I updated two weeks ago the last release (Build 3059) and even (Build 3062) and it crashes.. since I don't want to bother using a close thing that crashes. I switched to atom.io And so far It's way better than three months ago (It's now fast enough) And It's really getting traction on the plugin side also.. I don't think I'll ever come back to sublimetext. I even went…

atom.io is not fast enough, not even close. Not for a professional developer who is using it 8+ hours a day.

Sorry for being an 10+ hours a day professional developer more productive on atom.io (latest) than on a buggy sublime text 3

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by judk »

coldtea wrote: post #39
smt88 wrote: post #17

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Sublime is dead. No one is actively developing it. There's a rich history of piggybacking on dead software, and I (and many others) clicked this link because of that piggybacking. I completely support and admire someone who is trying to further the development of Sublime without having the original code base.

> Sublime is dead. No one is actively developing it. No one has to "actively develop it". It's a fully capable editor. It has a great plugin framework and ecosystem. Pending some incompatible OS change, I can use it for the next 30 years (using ST-3 from the early alphas, and it has been rock solid). For comparison, I also use Vim, and it's not like I use any "new features" in Vim or anything. The most "current" feat…

Several powerful new plugins depend on Vim 7.4

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by aet »

erichmond wrote: post #68
boobsbr wrote: post #61

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> 60 bucks is less than an hour's pay for many/most developers WHAT? Where?

In NYC, senior devs can charge 2x that. I assume silicon valley is the same way.

Which is $240k a year which puts you in the top 4% of earners nationwide. Why on earth you would pay a programmer $240k a year when you can probably get the same thing outsourced for $40k/year.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by josteink »

gerbal wrote: post #96
swah wrote: post #87

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Me too. Even though I'm an die hard fan of the Emacs ideas on extensiblity (which is more similar to Github's Atom) speed and good defaults have to come first, the this Sublime has excelled.

Also being available everywhere. I like Text Mate quite a bit, but being single platform makes it harder to recommend.

> Also being available everywhere.

Emacs is everywhere. Windows. Linux. GUIed. And in a terminal where I've SSHed into a remote host.

TextMate? Nope. Sublime text? Nope. Atom? Nope. LightTable? No chance.

These modern GUI-only editors is IMO a major step back considering the Unix-y audience they are targeting: Any decent Unix-editor needs to work on my console. No exceptions.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by oblio »

michaelmior wrote: post #107
oblio wrote: post #102

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Both Emacs and Vim are updated regularly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Emacs#Release_history http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_%28text_editor%29#Release_h... In between major releases they have tons and tons of bug fixes (Vim probably has hundreds per release). Editors can suffer a lot from code rot since they have to integrate with a lot of things. An Open Source version could be quite interesting from Sublime's…

While it is nice that they're both updated regularly, I'm not sure that hundreds of bug fixes per release is actually comforting. (I say this as a happy Vim user :)

Considering the humongous amount of corner cases Vim covers and the huge base of knowledgeable users that push Vim to its limits, I'd say that the bug count is to be expected.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by judk »

m_mueller wrote: post #52
easytiger wrote: post #38

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Interesting, I guess it is just an editing preference. Multiple cursors i associate with mouse use (I know it isn't the same but I bet most people use the mouse with them). I consider touching the mouse dangerous for myself and for productivity. > Tree View This i fully understand (and exisits in emacs) but I think not necessary either for my workflow. A treeview does already exist in a format called folders and file…

Multicursors are one of these things that you don't understand the use for, until you start using them, at which point you can never go back. In order to understand what they do, just have a look at all six gifs on this page: http://www.sublimetext.com/ . And sorry, but if you don't know about multicursors, I'm not sure whether you get what I mean with "Regex search over file or selection, results can be turned into…

So multicursor is an unhygenic version of semantic rename (refactoring)? Ew.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by gangstaplot2 »

overgard wrote: post #110

I wish they wouldn't attach themselves to the sublime brand. It's not theirs, and it's pretty shady to ride another project's coattails when their intent is essentially to cannibalize it by being sublime-but-free. You can discuss the merits of open source and paying for tools all you want, but basically their goal is to put a man out of business who's made something that a lot of people love, because he has the gall…

Oddly enough, I've been using ST2 for a while and have been too lazy to actually buy a license for it (or Divvy).

I think I'll do so now for exactly this reason.

Re: Lime Text: Open Source Sublime Text clone

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Post by crazypyro »

bulte-rs wrote: post #74
phpnode wrote: post #64

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from the top of my head: UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Netherlands, Germany, Austria, all of Scandinavia

I don't make 60 bucks an hour (not even 45 euros).. Much sad :(

Just a funny note, those values ($60 and 45 EUR) are almost exactly the same, to the .1. I don't know if you meant for that.
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