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Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Re: Creative Cloud outage leaves Adobe users unable to work

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Post by LoganCale »

jon-wood wrote: post #164
hrktb wrote: post #97

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I'm not sure to understand your point. Does it boil down to "single point of failure are bad"? There are alternatives to each of the Adobe products, self hosted and available offline. People going the Creative Cloud route for their daily job are in a situation where the alternative costed too much or doesn't allow them to do their job in a sufficient way, so there was no real viable options from the start. The proble…

> I don't think they have an image of high quality software either, they do some amazing things and bring killer features, but I harldy heard anyone being loyal to Adobe itself. Having worked with designers I'm going to disagree. For most designers Photoshop or Illustrator are the only tools they'll even consider using because they're so much more powerful than the competition. That's changing a little with things li…

Photoshop and Illustrator are not quality software in many ways, but for professional designers they contain features that competitors do not. And a bigger issue locking people in is that if you are collaborating with anyone, everyone has to use the same thing. Competitors to Illustrator are generally not fully compatible and can't perfectly open an Illustrator file.

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Post by Shorel »

abalone wrote: post #179
nnq wrote: post #37

My recipe for dealing with "cranky" proprietary software like this: Step 1. Buy CC subscription and install what you need. Step 2. Look for a good patch/crack that makes everything work ofline, and that still allows you to update. Step 3. Make peace with the risk of having installed some possible malware on your machine with the patch/crack (ie. do the sensible thing of doing you shopping and ebanking on the other de…

My "recipe" is this: Uninstall and switch to Sketch. http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ I have been so, so happy. Not 100% apples-to-apples of course but it's been great for my UI design needs, way better than Photoshop/Fireworks. For bitmap editing I supplement with Pixelmator (only $15!). I used to say Photoshop couldn't be beat because of insanely hardcore features like content-aware fill, but then this is happenin…

Is there anything similar that works in Ubuntu?

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Post by mjcohen »

viraptor wrote: post #157
batbomb wrote: post #86

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It does, "ok maps"

Not anymore. They became reasonable again and both the search and any selected location description has a "save for offline use" button at the bottom.

But you can't search the resulting map or get directions. I have an Android phone, and the last good Maps for it was version 6. I do two things: (1) use copilot GPS with the whole U.S. and Canada (takes 1.8 GB); (2) keep my old Galaxy Nexus with Android 4.2 which cannot be upgraded and has Maps 6.

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Post by johnatwork »

lotsofmangos wrote: post #96

Complete non-hacked photoshop CS2 is freely available with serial - http://www.techspot.com/downloads/3689-adobe-photoshop-cs2.h... It works pretty well in Wine as well, if you fiddle with the settings.

And CS2 is more than enough for most folks.

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Post by Someone »

mcmillion wrote: post #183
abalone wrote: post #179

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My "recipe" is this: Uninstall and switch to Sketch. http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ I have been so, so happy. Not 100% apples-to-apples of course but it's been great for my UI design needs, way better than Photoshop/Fireworks. For bitmap editing I supplement with Pixelmator (only $15!). I used to say Photoshop couldn't be beat because of insanely hardcore features like content-aware fill, but then this is happenin…

I'm going to have to see that in person to believe it.

It is like magic, but Adobe demoed (and, I think, shipped) it in Photoshop over four years ago: http://tv.adobe.com/watch/cs5-web-premium-feature-tour/conte..., so the technology does exist.

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Post by na85 »

bentcorner wrote: post #197
na85 wrote: post #114

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Off the top of my head, GMail is the only one. Mostly because Outlook's/Thunderbird's UI and UX are absolute ass. SAAS is inferior in: * games * text editors * photo editors * IDEs Backup storage is okay, but I live in a country with tight bandwidth caps so I can't really use things, plus I don't want Google or Dropbox or MeGa snooping at what I upload. So I would never pay to use any of the above things, and I would…

> SAAS is inferior in: > * games Isn't steam like this? The bits get downloaded to your machine, but if Steam goes offline your SOL. What steam could use is better download management. If they moved over to an on-demand streaming architecture it'd be really huge. The days you'd need to preload software could be over. This sort of thing has been solved many times before, so it's technically possible. In fact, as I typ…

Well, Steam is inferior for that exact reason.

It does have an "offline mode" where it will pre-decrypt the games or whatever it does behind the scenes.

Why would on-demand streaming be a good thing? Now you have to worry about ISPs and bandwidth, it doesn't solve the problem.

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Post by LeoPanthera »

wishinghand wrote: post #208
abalone wrote: post #179

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My "recipe" is this: Uninstall and switch to Sketch. http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ I have been so, so happy. Not 100% apples-to-apples of course but it's been great for my UI design needs, way better than Photoshop/Fireworks. For bitmap editing I supplement with Pixelmator (only $15!). I used to say Photoshop couldn't be beat because of insanely hardcore features like content-aware fill, but then this is happenin…

I do wish there were better alternatives for each and every app in the CC. The only one that's competently matched is Premiere. Pixelmator is good, but Mac/OSX only. It also doesn't have adjustment layers, meaning that if I want a layer to be black and white, I'd have to open it up separately, desaturate, then import it back in as a new layer, delete the old one and rearrange. They finally have a 16bit color, and app…

I'd love to know where the idea came from that Mac OS X has a slash in it somewhere. I've seen Mac/OSX, and I've seen Mac OS/X. I reckon it's probably because of OS/2.

People sometimes call the Playstation 2 the "PS/2" as well, which is all kinds of wrong.

No slashes in OS X!

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Post by seryoiupfurds »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #218
wishinghand wrote: post #208

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I do wish there were better alternatives for each and every app in the CC. The only one that's competently matched is Premiere. Pixelmator is good, but Mac/OSX only. It also doesn't have adjustment layers, meaning that if I want a layer to be black and white, I'd have to open it up separately, desaturate, then import it back in as a new layer, delete the old one and rearrange. They finally have a 16bit color, and app…

I'd love to know where the idea came from that Mac OS X has a slash in it somewhere. I've seen Mac/OSX, and I've seen Mac OS/X. I reckon it's probably because of OS/2. People sometimes call the Playstation 2 the "PS/2" as well, which is all kinds of wrong. No slashes in OS X!

I think it was being used the same way as people write PC/Windows, or perhaps Unix/Linux.

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Post by nwh »

abalone wrote: post #181
nwh wrote: post #34

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The trouble is that the lock-in is immense. I know people with upwards of 20,000 PSD files in stock ready for when clients return and want similar jobs done. Every piece of print hardware I know of uses Pantone standard colours which no other software supports properly or fully. None of the plotters I have used support anything but Photoshop and Illustrator through Adobe Flash plugins. For all the cries that Sketch a…

You make a good point about high-end print production, but Sketch is definitely making inroads with professional designers. They don't have to worry about plotter compatibility.

When someone comes through the door and gives me anything but an illustrator file with the proper layers set up, they're going to get charged for someone to sit and weed them out of whatever format Sketch generates.
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