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Post by shna »

vajorie wrote: post #150
shna wrote: post #103

I am a native Turkish speaker and I listened the recording. For one thing I did not hear anything you would not expect to hear from most of the statesman in the west in a similar situation. Conversation is about the future stance of Turkey for the civil war in Syria and lack of enough resolve for the last 3 years to intervene properly, and that does not mean directly involving but not supplying ammo to rebel groups a…

seems u listened the first part. also, seriously, learn critical thinking.

I listened both videos. It is apparent that you either did not listen it or did not read my comment completely. Why don't you show us your critical thinking while linking it to the text without fabricating anything.

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Post by shna »

DickingAround wrote: post #14

Blocking social media sites and expecting it to reduce tension is like turning off TV & radio broadcasting and expecting people to remain in their homes; it's a failure to understand modern systems of control. Orwell doesn't work at all. Huxley is your only hope Turkey :P

I totally agree. There are so many venues on internet you can express yourself. However on a limited time frame it works. Only a week away from the elections, not many people will be able to reconnect through other means.

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Post by delinka »

EGreg wrote: post #137
delinka wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Information wants to be free" doesn't apply to North Korea because they never had access to the Internet as we know it? Information is only dependent on the Internet insofar as the Internet is a transmission medium. Other media exist even in NK- print, broadcast, word-of-mouth. Information can be exchanged freely by whispering voices.

That information has a much higher chance of corruption while in transit, and the bandwidth is low. People can't broadcast photos and videos through whispers for instance.

Whether the information is corruptible isn't the issue. Freedom to share it is. Before the Internet, we had entire civilizations (even free ones) built on communication that was less than perfect. I'm sure that in the early years of the USA broadcasting photos and videos wasn't a high priority, yet, somehow, freedom to share information was acknowledged as a basic human right that must not be removed.

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Post by Locke1689 »

chrisdevereux wrote: post #144
Locke1689 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are people here who come from countries that were the target of America's equally fabricated reason to get into WWII. Pearl Harbor? What are you smoking?

There's a popular conspiracy theory that Roosevelt knew Pearl Harbor was going to happen and allowed it as a pretext for entering the war. No conclusive evidence either way though.

That still makes no sense. Even if one tries and fails to destroy the US Pacific fleet (which, technically, is what happened) that's still an act of war, whether or not the President knew about it.

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Post by wfn »

EGreg wrote: post #149
wfn wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tor software has the public keys of Tor directory authorities built-in. But it needs to trust those directory authorities to provide true up-to-date information about the network (Tor clients download the public keys for all the relays which are currently online and are deemed to be OK by the authorities, from the authorities (or their mirrors - everything is signed by dirauth keys.)) If the dir authorities are compr…

What about namecoin?

Sorry, haven't looked into namecoin. But I would presume that as long as you already know the domain name, no MitM can happen, and no explicit trust has to be placed onto anyone. This is true for, e.g., Tor hidden services, wherein if one knows the .onion name, they'll know if messages coming from that service are actually from that service, because they'll be signed by an ephemeral key that is itself signed by a key the fingerprint of which is the .onion name itself. (This is a gross oversimplification, and I could have made a mistake anyway..)

If a similar scheme is true for namecoin addresses, then the situation is better indeed.

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Post by wfn »

EGreg wrote: post #149
wfn wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tor software has the public keys of Tor directory authorities built-in. But it needs to trust those directory authorities to provide true up-to-date information about the network (Tor clients download the public keys for all the relays which are currently online and are deemed to be OK by the authorities, from the authorities (or their mirrors - everything is signed by dirauth keys.)) If the dir authorities are compr…

What about namecoin?

fwiw, here's a rather relevant post: http://unhandledexpression.com/2014/04/07/revisiting-zookos-...
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