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I see -- you were just in the wrong city! You are right - I moved to Manhattan.
Anyone have a reference of a study on using secondary social indicators to estimate an individuals likely behavior, prejudices, socio-economic history and current status, etc?
Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
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Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
#72Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's more that most men here aren't into the same sorts of things women are into, so they self-segregate by sex. If you're going to work 70-80 hours on a startup, basically no sane woman is going to join you (I know a couple women that'll do startups, but most seem to want some semblance of a life too.) If you're going to read TechCrunch and Reddit and Digg all day, same thing. If you go to a yoga/pilates/yog…
> If you're going to work 70-80 hours on a startup, basically no sane woman is going to join you (I know a couple women that'll do startups, but most seem to want some semblance of a life too.) Not true at all! Really driven, busy women usually choose choose driven, busy men. I worked full time, ran my own company, and had a full classload studying for a business degree for two years. My working breakdown was: 30-50…
Your description of "busy people" == insane to 99% of the population, so what he said: "...no sane woman is going to join you" is essentially true.
But yes, insane people should date other insane people. Nobody else will understand them.
Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
#73I've had more time to think about this... This link is now the number 2 link on HN. A few days ago one of the top links was about how to survive on $36/month for food. You have to be kidding me, right? Sorry, but woman and marathon, multi-day coding sessions filled with noodles, beans, rice, oats and pb&j just don't mix.
You're assuming only guys live like this?
Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
#74I've had more time to think about this... This link is now the number 2 link on HN. A few days ago one of the top links was about how to survive on $36/month for food. You have to be kidding me, right? Sorry, but woman and marathon, multi-day coding sessions filled with noodles, beans, rice, oats and pb&j just don't mix.
You're assuming only guys live like this?
I think it's a pretty fair approximation.
Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
"And even big tech companies have pretty even gender ratios" Thats very false. Here is a sample of companies and their ratio: Google: Median Age 29 years Gender Male 65% Female 35% Yahoo: Median Age 32 years Gender Male 66% Female 34% Facebook: Median Age 27 years Gender Male 68% Female 32% Sun: Median Age 37 years Gender Male 74% Female 26% eBay: Median Age 32 years Gender Male 62% Female 38% Non Tech: UC Berkeley (…
I work in one of these companies and Im surprised to see this. But then again Im an engineer. These numbers are bloated by the HR/customer service/sales people I guess. If you are a tech in tech company,the split is like 90-10.
I also work in one of these and I'm not terribly surprised, but my own observations are that it's a bit less lopsided than that. I already mentioned that both my team and my cube are split 3-4, so 42% female. The other team I work with is 6 females and 9 males, so 40% female. That's in engineering - UI design and UX research seem to be even more balanced, and HR of course is virtually all female. At a rough guess, the numbers I see in the cafes are maybe 60-40 male/female.
Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
#76Also why is there a lack of African American people there? Anyone ever been to a technology conference? I felt like I stepped into Harvard circa 1955.
> Also why is there a lack of African American people there?
This article attempts to explain it: http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0615/p02s04-usgn.html
Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's more that most men here aren't into the same sorts of things women are into, so they self-segregate by sex. If you're going to work 70-80 hours on a startup, basically no sane woman is going to join you (I know a couple women that'll do startups, but most seem to want some semblance of a life too.) If you're going to read TechCrunch and Reddit and Digg all day, same thing. If you go to a yoga/pilates/yog…
> If you're going to work 70-80 hours on a startup, basically no sane woman is going to join you (I know a couple women that'll do startups, but most seem to want some semblance of a life too.) Not true at all! Really driven, busy women usually choose choose driven, busy men. I worked full time, ran my own company, and had a full classload studying for a business degree for two years. My working breakdown was: 30-50…
Yeah, I threw in the "sane" to cover cases like that. I know of women that'll readily work 70-80 hour weeks for a startup. But I wouldn't exactly call them sane. ;-)
Incidentally, I'm kinda curious whether there's any correlation between insane hours and success at the fuck-you-money level. (I know there's one as you go from high-school education to professional degree, but I think the causation is backwards: people work longer hours and get paid more because their jobs are more engaging, they don't get paid more because they work longer hours.) From what I see - and this seems backed up by Outliers and Fooled by Randomness - massive success seems more proportional to how many risks you to take and how much randomness you expose yourself to than how hard you work. Curious if there's any data on this...
Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
#78Because females are less likely to be entrepreneurs and less likely to be programmers.
You don't even need to have a whole blog about it.
Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
#79Somehow I suspect the guys who are getting the girls aren't at home writing blog posts about the subject.
I believe the technical term for this is ad hominem. Is it even possible for an argument to be true if it subjects the author to a witty reply? Apparently the Internet would have us believe that all such arguments are a priori certain to be false.
Re: Why There Are No Girls In San Francisco
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
"And even big tech companies have pretty even gender ratios" Thats very false. Here is a sample of companies and their ratio: Google: Median Age 29 years Gender Male 65% Female 35% Yahoo: Median Age 32 years Gender Male 66% Female 34% Facebook: Median Age 27 years Gender Male 68% Female 32% Sun: Median Age 37 years Gender Male 74% Female 26% eBay: Median Age 32 years Gender Male 62% Female 38% Non Tech: UC Berkeley (…
I work in one of these companies and Im surprised to see this. But then again Im an engineer. These numbers are bloated by the HR/customer service/sales people I guess. If you are a tech in tech company,the split is like 90-10.
Agreed. A company is a miniature snapshot of the city it's in. If the girls in marketing in HR aren't into engineers in general (or vice versa) it doesn't matter that they work in the same building.