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The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Re: The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Post by ekianjo »

icebraining wrote: post #29
ekianjo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Such console games "get" this effect just because they look more and more like movies, not because they are better intrinsic games than what we had before. And the examples shown by the author show her clear ignorance of PC games in the 80-90s, so it's not surprising he didn't feel "much" in front of consoles games. We basically had to wait for late SNES games and PS1 games to see more and more games on consoles with…

The whole article is about how the author found a game which she could identify with the character, yet you still refer to her as "he". I just thought it was curious.

Corrected.

Re: The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Post by downer99 »

lotsofmangos wrote: post #26
downer99 wrote: post #21

Woah! So wait. Dave Sim is a misogynist? Like, a card-carrying member of the Misogynist party? THE Dave Sim, creator of the Cerebus comic book? How do you kick off an article with a bold statement like that, and not include at least a link to an interview or something? Is he like, the founder of some kind of Men's Rights Advocacy group or something? Does he run a political action committee? Is he quoted anywhere as e…

Have you read his stuff on women? I like Cerebus, but he definitely has issues with women. "Emotion, whatever the Female Void would have you believe, is not a more Exalted State than is Thought. In point of fact, I think Emotion is animalistic, serpent-brain stuff. Animals do not Think, but I am reasonably certain that they have Emotions. 'Eating this makes me Happy.' 'When my fur is all wet and I am cold, it makes m…

Well! Those certainly are some, eh... curious... statements, aren't they?

I never read Cerebus cover-to-cover, because, well, it's freaking huge. I've only perused a couple of volumes, in particular, the first and last volumes.

I'm reading his wikipedia article now. I never realized he'd become mired in a controversy and gained such a weird reputation. He doesn't seem to self-identify as misogynistic though.

Re: The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Post by ekianjo »

lotsofmangos wrote: post #22
ekianjo wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Although women make up nearly half of all gamers, only a fraction of videogame characters are female, and fewer still are playable. Double false claim. Women certainly don't make half of gamers (unless you consider people playing Tetris and phone games real gamers, and that's a very different subject altogether). Fewer are playable, false claim as well. Tomb Raider, Bayonetta, Most adventure games from Roberta Will…

Of course tetris fans are real gamers.

Well, yeah, Tetris is a game. But it's a game in the same way that a termite is also a living species just like an elephant is another one. They just do not benchmark on the same scale.

Re: The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Post by babyturtle »

lotsofmangos wrote: post #26
downer99 wrote: post #21

Woah! So wait. Dave Sim is a misogynist? Like, a card-carrying member of the Misogynist party? THE Dave Sim, creator of the Cerebus comic book? How do you kick off an article with a bold statement like that, and not include at least a link to an interview or something? Is he like, the founder of some kind of Men's Rights Advocacy group or something? Does he run a political action committee? Is he quoted anywhere as e…

Have you read his stuff on women? I like Cerebus, but he definitely has issues with women. "Emotion, whatever the Female Void would have you believe, is not a more Exalted State than is Thought. In point of fact, I think Emotion is animalistic, serpent-brain stuff. Animals do not Think, but I am reasonably certain that they have Emotions. 'Eating this makes me Happy.' 'When my fur is all wet and I am cold, it makes m…

he doesnt have issues with women... he sees them clearly as they are.

Re: The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Post by icebraining »

ekianjo wrote: post #33
lotsofmangos wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course tetris fans are real gamers.

Well, yeah, Tetris is a game. But it's a game in the same way that a termite is also a living species just like an elephant is another one. They just do not benchmark on the same scale.

I strongly disagree. A game should be first and foremost measured by its gameplay, and Tetris easily beats 99% of the games released each year on that department.

Re: The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Post by babyturtle »

danso wrote: post #11

OK, to go off on a tangent...here's the best example I can think of that illustrates the imbalance of gender neutral roles that men take for granted and that women basically have never had: the only time I can think of, in American entertainment history, that a woman achieved the authority and an unforgettable identity that had nothing to do with "...because she's a woman" is: Ripley in Alien and Aliens (never saw 3…

ripley was fighting unrealistic aliens (not a believable universe)... pit her against Lecter for eg and she will become another bumbling Clarice.

Re: The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Post by prestadige »

danso wrote: post #11

OK, to go off on a tangent...here's the best example I can think of that illustrates the imbalance of gender neutral roles that men take for granted and that women basically have never had: the only time I can think of, in American entertainment history, that a woman achieved the authority and an unforgettable identity that had nothing to do with "...because she's a woman" is: Ripley in Alien and Aliens (never saw 3…

What about Ellie Arroway in 'Contact'?

Re: The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Post by lotsofmangos »

downer99 wrote: post #32
lotsofmangos wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read his stuff on women? I like Cerebus, but he definitely has issues with women. "Emotion, whatever the Female Void would have you believe, is not a more Exalted State than is Thought. In point of fact, I think Emotion is animalistic, serpent-brain stuff. Animals do not Think, but I am reasonably certain that they have Emotions. 'Eating this makes me Happy.' 'When my fur is all wet and I am cold, it makes m…

Well! Those certainly are some, eh... curious... statements, aren't they? I never read Cerebus cover-to-cover, because, well, it's freaking huge. I've only perused a couple of volumes, in particular, the first and last volumes. I'm reading his wikipedia article now. I never realized he'd become mired in a controversy and gained such a weird reputation. He doesn't seem to self-identify as misogynistic though.

He self identifies as being a defender of The Truth against a feminist dictatorship that invents things like child poverty.

For him to identify as misogynist would require him to accept a world-view where viewing women as unthinking beasts was hateful, rather than being a divine message from the true god Elohim about that female trickster Yahweh.

Personally I just think he went crazy with hate over his ex-wife.

Re: The Videogame That Finally Made Me Feel Like a Human Being

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Post by lotsofmangos »

babyturtle wrote: post #34
lotsofmangos wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read his stuff on women? I like Cerebus, but he definitely has issues with women. "Emotion, whatever the Female Void would have you believe, is not a more Exalted State than is Thought. In point of fact, I think Emotion is animalistic, serpent-brain stuff. Animals do not Think, but I am reasonably certain that they have Emotions. 'Eating this makes me Happy.' 'When my fur is all wet and I am cold, it makes m…

he doesnt have issues with women... he sees them clearly as they are.

You been told to tidy your room again then?
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