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Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#122

So...the number it tells me to dial (202) 999-3996 tells me I'm calling to fight the Fast Track for the Trans-Pacific Partnership. This isn't related...could someone fix this?

The best laid plans. I received that message. I tried to use it anyway. It successfully connected me to Howard Coble's office (I'm in NC), and I communicated the message to an assistant. The recording then said it was connecting me to Richard Burr, but immediately seemed to think the call was over and said "You're doing great". Finally, it successfully connected me to Kay Hagan's office, but 5 seconds into her recorded message everything went silent. That was it.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#123
post #25

All of the people who built the site and the banner are volunteers who met on HN across various threads, and not members of any of the advocacy orgs or companies listed on the site. We're really interested in getting feedback on how future campaigns can be better, and happy to discuss some of the decisions we made. The non-profits involved did all the legal and organization lifting, and this is a great opportunity to…

> We're really interested in getting feedback on how future campaigns can be better I'd recommend addressing the actual problem , which the all-encompassing surveillance is a symptom of. The actual problem is that there is a government in place. For more information, look up Stefan Molyneux, Larken Rose, Michael Huemer, Murray Rothbard, David Friedman, etc.

And the actual problem that cancer is a symptom of is that we have bodies. So we should really be working towards the Matrix, not doing dead-end research on curing or treating diseases.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#124
post #11

As far as I am concerned, fighting back for a day is useless. The NSA is probably going to find they have already lost this battle because we now trust their co-conspirators a lot less. It's the slow, relatively minor pressure over time by billions of people that will change things. But the real danger is with the next battle. I think we are going to see a major showdown over legality of encryption generally within t…

I really, really don't think anyone is trying to say that this is the /only/ thing you should do. Many of the people organizing this campaign worked on any number of different campaigns over the last 6 months (Stop Watching Us, Restore the Fourth rallies, a rally in DC, Defund The NSA), so we'd be the last to say that this is the only day you should take action. Rather, this is a single day for all of us who care abo…

> Rather, this is a single day for all of us who care about the isuee to rally round and do something to reach a critical mass of action that gets noticed on capitol hill. And also to help educate people who've tuned out of NSA stories by reiterating all the things the NSA is doing to erode privacy.

To be honest, I am jaded enough to wonder how much politics actually matters here. The NSA isn't going to stop spying on us because Congress tells them to. It isn't even clear that Congress knows enough about what is going on to really oversee it. And if they don't, then what? We get some feel-good legislation which purports to solve the situation but really just plants the seeds of the next great abuse. That's exactly what happened with FISA.

The current battleground is not on Capitol Hill. it is in the insistence that we make companies pay for what they are doing with the NSA and insist on the development of secure alternatives.

The next battleground (as we make gains in private industry) will be in Capitol Hill, and believe me, when it comes, we will need business interests to be on our side.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#125
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't mean to belittle it all, I'm well impressed with it. Nicely explained for the most part and I saw afterwards that it's up on github too so it's easy to send in corrections for it. I had to look up Friendica and Movim to see what they were (I'd never heard of them before), it'd be nice to have links to the respective homepages, so off I'll go and add them in.

Pull requests for corrections or installation sequences are welcome.

No problems, I can see one or two bits that I think could do with clarifying (not least to get rid of emacs :P ). I'll have a go at it this evening and take notes.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#126
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Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#127
The irony to me is that they have two of the worst offenders when it comes to mass surveillance advertised on the side of the page. Facebook and Google, despite their attempts to say they weren't aware of the NSA gaining access to their info, are probably just as much of a threat to privacy as the NSA total information awareness.

It goes like this: let the private companies run wild when it comes to privacy violations, and then gobble up all their data via national security letters, subpoenas, secret taps via NSA tech, and warrants for higher profile stuff and then only if desperate, and that is assuming an adversarial nature between the private sector and the government. In fact the C-levels are often directly approached and goaded into silently and secretly cooperating. (and if they refuse, ala Quest, they get targeted by the system)

Of course there is the matter that it is governments who will take the surveillance information and then act upon it, making them the slightly more evil evil in the room, but that does not negate the issue of private sector mass surveillance that is for sale to the highest bidder.

I've been one of those who has ranted about the dangers of the NSA since the late 90's, and now that it's a mainstream issue, it seems to have taken on a "oh yeah, the NSA is bad! stop that surveillance" kind of hipster social wave that lacks any kind of detailed nuance or explores the origins and destinations of this admittedly huge issue.

Yes, the surveillance is unconstitutional. So have been many of the other activities our American oligarchic powers have been engaged in over the past decade, including the assassination of American citizens without due process.

All of these things point to a much more deeply rooted issue than simply "surveillance", namely, that our fundamental governmental structure is in ruins as a result of a combination of corruption and apathy that has gutted the already precariously positioned checks and balances system.

Russ Tice has said he held in his hand the wiretap papers for a then hopeful senator from IL, who happens to now be in the Whitehouse. Are we really so naive as to think that Obama is clean coming from such a notoriously corrupt political arena? The intelligence agencies have been using the same techniques for ages, namely, bribery and threats. Russ Tice has also said he held in his hands the papers for judges who now sit on the SCOTUS, and FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds has a source who was responsible for vetting potential judges (up to SCOTUS level), and according to her, he said that anytime a judge came up clean, he was immediately removed from the roster of potentials. The implication being that only controllable people are allowed.

The point is that all three branches of government are corrupt and no longer (if ever, don't mistake that phrase for golden day idealism) functioning as servants of the people and defenders of the constitution (I wonder what the legal importance of oaths really is these days, because I seem to be surrounded by oath-breakers(USMC combat vet)).

And of the three branches, it is the executive which lords it's power over the other two.

The really sad part is that it seems to be the private sector which lords power of the executive. This is the trail of breadcrumbs that truly concerned people need to start discussing, researching, and following. It's very difficult to do. It's hard to track down the global supranational corporate structure. I am still often referencing this paper: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf

Oh, and as far as technological surveillance goes, there are two main starting points. 1) open source EVERYTHING (especially our trackers ahem cellphones) 2) decentralize everything possible. That is how we gain control of our data back... but that's becoming more and more difficult.

Honestly, I think RMS was simply a man far ahead of his time, and the history books (if he isn't wiped from their pages) will refer to him as a visionary in a sea of overly pragmatic corporatists who failed to see the big picture.

I could go on quite a bit about this, but that's where I'll leave it for now.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#128
Here is great post from reddit by SomeKindOfMutant:

"Right idea; wrong methods. Let me explain. An email to your legislators may result in a form letter response and a phone call to the office may amount to a tally mark on an administrative assistant's notepad. But, if you want to get their attention, a letter to the editor published in one of your state's 5-10 biggest newspapers that mentions them specifically BY NAME is the way to go.

That is the crucial thing to know--the rest of this comment is an explanation of why I know this is true. I know this because, when I interned in the D.C. office of a senator one summer, one of the duties I shared was preparing a document that was distributed internally both online and in paper format. This document was made every day and comprised world news articles, national news, state news, and any letters to the editor in the 5-10 largest newspapers within the senator's home state that mentioned him by name. I was often the person who put that document on his desk, and it was the first thing he read every morning after arriving to the office.

I began to suspect that this was standard operating procedure because several other senators' offices share the same printer in the basement of the Russell Senate Office building, and I saw other interns doing the exact same procedures that I was involved in. Since the internship, I've conferred with other Senate and House employees past and present and determined that most--if not all--offices use essentially the same procedure.

Edit: I don't mean to suggest that calling or emailing your legislators is worthless. It isn't--it's just not the most effective route to getting their attention. However, if you don't have the time to writer a letter to the editor, please consider at least calling or emailing them. In fact, there's no reason why you couldn't use multiple tactics by calling them, emailing them, and writing a letter to the editor. If you would like to go the call or email route, tools to help with that can be found at https://thedaywefightback.org/"

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#129
I felt compelled to give a fake address for fear of automated reprisal. If the NSA builds up enough of an anti-surveillance (in their minds anti-American) dossier on me, I could be added to the no-fly list or worse.

Re: Today is The Day We Fight Back

#130
post #34

My little fight back are some instructions on how to provide your own internet services, including encryption. http://freedombone.uk.to/ It's not ideal, of course, but in the short term since there seems to be no political appetite for relinquishment or meaningful reform then technical mitigation strategies - if they can be sufficiently popularised - may help to reduce the harm resulting from mass surveillance. Ultim…

Extremely well-done. Thanks, will build one.
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