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I am sorry if this isnt clear but you are talking about professors at universities and people who are enrolling I dont see the link?
Well, many college students don't settle on a degree for the first year or two and it's pretty normal to switch majors. If you get through a few courses and there are no women role models in the department, I would guess that more women than men would switch to something else.
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I just don't buy this argument. As others said, it is 2014, not 1990. Women now outnumber men in colleges 3 to 2, and this is somehow not an issue of discrimination or inequality, on the contrary, it is now apparently more important than ever that we eradicate the few areas where men still unambiguously dominate the outcomes. The only thing that has changed is society's view of computer geeks, which has evolved from…
Those are all legitimate problems. But back to the actual topic: why do you think women aren't interested in computer science?
On top of that, engineering is one of the fields which has the largest attrition rate amongst its students. It's clear that just thinking you want to be an engineer is not enough to succeed at it.
Add to that the fact that women are inundated with the message that they absolutely should go into STEM, and I think you have a recipe for disillusionment that merely shifts the attrition further down the pipeline. Which is exactly what we find: after 10 years, many more women leave the field than men.
I have a tremendous amount of respect for any woman that does make it in the field, but they've pretty much all been the kind of atypical go-getter personalities that other, more girly women, feel intimidated by.
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"Women need all the help that they can get because men run everything and often don't really think of women as completely human. Women need help because they are constantly under attack." Not sure if this is troll bait, but... are you serious? Do you have anything at all to back this up?
1. Men run everything. 2. Men often don't think of women as human. 3. Women are under attack by men. I don't think these points are controversial. 1. Women are 50% of the workforce, but 4.5% of fortune 1000 CEO positions. 2. Women didn't get the right to vote in America until 50 years after black people, who were officially only partially human. 3. Is a characterization.
Gross generalization. Clearly not true.
2. Men often don't think of women as human.
Another gross generalization, and your support for this is that a long time ago women couldn't vote, therefore often men don't think of women as human? By that twisted logic the statement Germany wants to invade France would still be true.
3. Women are under attack by men.
Laughably histrionic. Is that like the war on Christmas?
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> It seems doubtful that the answer to social inequalities is to make special privileges for each group to match the special privileges already enjoyed by others, as opposed to working more towards an ideal of equal treatment for everyone. If two people are running in a race, and one of them has been running the past 4 miles with a 50-pound weight on their back, taking the weight off isn't going to make the race fair…
The mentality of the world as a competition between different groups of people, where either men win and women lose, or men lose and women win, doesn't seem particularly helpful either. A race implies winners and losers, so I think this is a bad analogy. An idea of "let's treat men worse for a while as revenge for years of male-dominated history" isn't very sophisticated, no particular offense intended. Also, giving…
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Here's some official government sources to go along with this discussion. Women earn the majority of bachelors, masters and doctorates: http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72 Women live longer than men: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf More women in the workforce have degrees than men: http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/education/c... And some non government research papers…
Stop bringing rational and critical thinking to this debate, you obviously haven't checked your privilege or heard of the patriarchy.
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1. I can just as easily claim that most of those companies are owned by old people. Does this mean we, as a society, discriminate against young people? I'm not arguing that sexism used to be a big issue back when most of the companies you're using as an example were created. I'm saying that nowadays, it is an issue that I doubt is as legitimate as women groups and similar make it out to be. 2. Same reasoning as above…
>1. I can just as easily claim that most of those companies are owned by old people. Yes, you can. I would argue that being older means that you have had the time to accumulate skills, experience, and connections. What does being a man give you? Upper body strength? >2. Same reasoning as above. I missed that reasoning. Most companies are owned by old people (something that I'm not even sure is true), therefore there'…
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Here's some official government sources to go along with this discussion. Women earn the majority of bachelors, masters and doctorates: http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72 Women live longer than men: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf More women in the workforce have degrees than men: http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/education/c... And some non government research papers…
Stop bringing rational and critical thinking to this debate, you obviously haven't checked your privilege or heard of the patriarchy.
I just don't understand why this post and discussion is being censored? Any one know why it just went from #3 to off the front page in under 5 minutes?
It doesnt fit with the social justice warrior narrative.
They don't belong here.
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1. Men run everything. 2. Men often don't think of women as human. 3. Women are under attack by men. I don't think these points are controversial. 1. Women are 50% of the workforce, but 4.5% of fortune 1000 CEO positions. 2. Women didn't get the right to vote in America until 50 years after black people, who were officially only partially human. 3. Is a characterization.
Here's some official government sources to go along with this discussion. Women earn the majority of bachelors, masters and doctorates: http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=72 Women live longer than men: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_06.pdf More women in the workforce have degrees than men: http://www.census.gov/newsroom/releases/archives/education/c... And some non government research papers…
Wonderful. Its good that the efforts that were made to help women in education have borne so much fruit that we're starting (or were starting in the 90s) to worry about boys falling behind. That's a sign that the supports might eventually be alright to take away.
>Women live longer than men:
Since the stone age. Is this a discussion of jealousy, or sexism?
>Women choose safer jobs than men (which may explain some income gap differences):
>And a study that suggests that men and women are paid the same:
For the same jobs. Probably. I believe these studies and hate the X cents on a dollar deceptive statistic. The fact is, women don't have the same jobs as men, they have lower level ones due to prejudice and childbearing. I'd also argue that there are many high-skill jobs that are traditionally dominated by women, and due to that domination are less respected and paid less. Even within female-dominated professions, management still somehow ends up dominated by men due to the "glass elevator."
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How can this be? Are you suggesting that women run less profitable businesses?
Yes they are less profitable, for a variety of reasons, like the one I already listed, women have less access to capital. Read the full report if you'd like to learn more!
Page 280. Work-life balance is a motive for starting their business for more women than men
It is also very suspect that the study does not include any data for credit for women enterprises started in the US.