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Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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Re: Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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I'm sure some exec already has.

This is from the same team that brought us the 'scroogled' campaign? I doubt they know what Rap Genius is....

This> http://www.billboard.com/files/styles/promo_650/public/media...

Re: Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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By people who are not fans of Rap Genius, of which there are many. (I like the site, for what it's worth).

Right, but this is a link to a piece of data. Calling it "emotive" is odd.

All data is emotive. All emotions stem from data.

When you look at the Mona Lisa or hear Sun by Koreless (IMO the most beautiful piece of music from 2013) you're processing data. It's just wave oscillations or light refraction.

Re: Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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Which is really a shame, because RapGenius is a better lyrics site than all the rest by leaps and bounds. Google is acting like a cartel here and it's absolutely ridiculous. I hope they can beat this thing.

I greatly prefer AZLyrics - they give me the lyrics on a page with just the lyrics, that's all I want nearly 100% of the time. It's not even a contest: http://i.imgur.com/H1QixcN.png

I quite like Spotify + musixmatch: http://i.imgur.com/S4rn5ug.jpg?1

Re: Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, but this is a link to a piece of data. Calling it "emotive" is odd.

All data is emotive. All emotions stem from data. When you look at the Mona Lisa or hear Sun by Koreless (IMO the most beautiful piece of music from 2013) you're processing data. It's just wave oscillations or light refraction.

No, data is not per-se emotive. You're confusing (amongst other things) the sub-set data that is aesthtetic, with the complet set of Data, and in vaguely more technical terms making an inference that is invalid.

Re: Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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So everyone talks about RG being superior due to its annotation. (true) But doesn't this identify that 80% of it's traffic comes from "m-low dogg gangsta money freaks and junk lyrics" searches? So at maximum, 20% of users use annotation features (surely some still use it for purely lyrics simply due to it being it easy to remember)

Re: Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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An interesting side effect of this is the phenomenon of less sophisticated users who use Google as their address bar. If you run a decently well-known website you see this in your analytics reports (at least back when you could see Google search keywords)--repeat visitors coming to your site from Google after searching for your site by name. This is why "facebook" is the top Google search. Since you can't find RapGen…

I consider myself sophisticated and I still use Google for something like Rap Genius: "rap genius kendrick lamar swimming pools" would get me there quicker than any other way. It's incredible that now that search string sends me to other pages that link to RG's lyrics but not directly to theirs.

That's why I /really/ like Chromes "tab to search" feature. When I visit a site with a search field Chrome remembers it. When I start typing the domain the URL bar says "Press TAB to search X", then you type in your search terms.

We're switching from Chrome to Firefox at work and their site-search is incredibly clunky in comparison.

Re: Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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So everyone talks about RG being superior due to its annotation. (true) But doesn't this identify that 80% of it's traffic comes from "m-low dogg gangsta money freaks and junk lyrics" searches? So at maximum, 20% of users use annotation features (surely some still use it for purely lyrics simply due to it being it easy to remember)

That's ignoring the presumably large contingent of users including myself and other commenters here who use Google as a direct line to search Rapgenius, like "Rapgenius Kendrick Lamar swimming pools," as it's faster than going to Rapgenius itself.

You could get more accurate numbers by looking at at percent of search traffic to Rapgenius does not include the keyword "Rapgenius" (though you can't do that anymore since google now scrubs SERP referrers).

Re: Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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Why was it disliked (prior to this incident)?

I don't think the product itself is disliked, just the founders.

There was a Gawker article a while ago that accused the very concept of the site of being racist.

Of course, you know, Gawker... not to be taken seriously.

Re: Rap Genius Traffic Has Dropped By Over 80%

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An interesting side effect of this is the phenomenon of less sophisticated users who use Google as their address bar. If you run a decently well-known website you see this in your analytics reports (at least back when you could see Google search keywords)--repeat visitors coming to your site from Google after searching for your site by name. This is why "facebook" is the top Google search. Since you can't find RapGen…

I consider myself sophisticated and I still use Google for something like Rap Genius: "rap genius kendrick lamar swimming pools" would get me there quicker than any other way. It's incredible that now that search string sends me to other pages that link to RG's lyrics but not directly to theirs.

Well that's different than searching for the URL (though I would suggest using tab to search the site within Chrome). I bet RapGenius got thousands of referrals from the keyword "rapgenius.com" per day. Obviously that will come back rather quickly, but it's something a lot of the HN audience would not normally think of happening.
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