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Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That link has a reference (not a link) to one article that (apparently) provides contrary evidence. The only link provided debunks none of it.

You should probably scroll all the way to the bottom

Humor me. Reproduce the links here.

Do note that my agenda is a lot more about live strong being a poor resource than it is about soy.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had the awful experience of (at the age of 15) having my father decide to be a vegan (due to a mid-life crisis) and replace all protein sources in our house with tofu and tempeh. It was fucking awful, and on top of the constant gas I had (going to high school with bad gas is itself torture) I remember having soreness and tenderness in the breast region. My progress in the weight room (I played football and wrestled…

"Vegan diets do not result in heart disease. Many studies have shown that vegetarians seem to have a lower risk of obesity, coronary heart disease (which causes heart attack), high blood pressure, diabetes mellitus and some forms of cancer." ( http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/NutritionCenter... ). There are plenty of other of legitimate articles if you look for them. You may have some kind of soy allergy.…

Anyone who carefully considers their diet likely has a lower incidence of heart disease than someone who doesn't because of noting food sources and caring about food. You could pick any arbitrary diet and draw similar large-scale conclusions.

The real data is when you consider two groups who consider their diet. The national average is absolutely not a control for meaningful diet analysis.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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post #13

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Is this going to be your only source of information on the subject?

The old adage "If it's on the internet it's true" is still alive and well... unfortunately

Soy milk is absolutely not a requirement of any diet. In the scheme of human diet, it is a relatively new invention, so it absolutely cannot be a necessary staple of human diet.

Can the body process it? Sure. But your body can digest almost everything.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

#44
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should probably scroll all the way to the bottom

Humor me. Reproduce the links here. Do note that my agenda is a lot more about live strong being a poor resource than it is about soy.

There, copied one for you, so you don't have to waste 2 seconds giving a pageview to that pesky website: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18558591/

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Humor me. Reproduce the links here. Do note that my agenda is a lot more about live strong being a poor resource than it is about soy.

There, copied one for you, so you don't have to waste 2 seconds giving a pageview to that pesky website: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/18558591/

That's the only link there!

And like I said, it doesn't debunk anything.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

#46
This article treats soy like a poison. What makes a poison is the dose, and the stories cited are talking about enormous doses of soy. Too much water will give you dilutional hyponatremia, does that mean you need to cut it out of your diet? Here's a accessible article: http://blog.zocdoc.com/does-soy-feminize-men-fact-vs-myth/. And here's a study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378106. Sigh.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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post #5

This article is 4 years old and has been debunked over and over again. This has a links to a number of studies on the subject http://www.livestrong.com/article/548574-soy-protein-male-br...

These sorts of "studies" are still being published, many of them funded by the dairy industry. Has nothing to do with science or nutrition as is taught in college, it is simply sales and marketing not unlike similar studies done by the tobacco industry just a few decades ago.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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post #14

What a pile of first world problems. I suspect a lot fewer guys will quit sugar and lose weight instead of quitting soy after reading this. And diabetes makes soy estrogen mimicking hormones look like kids' play when it comes to erectile dysfunction. A guy in his 50s or 60s (well past when the boys are pumping out huge amounts of testosterone) drinking _3 quarts_ of soy milk per day is not exactly typical.

And don't forget, it was only one guy...

Who clearly has not take even one semester of college level nutrition.
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