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Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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Obligatory Examine.com link: http://examine.com/faq/is-soy-good-or-bad-for-me.html

exactly (T)his. i (k)new you would beat me to posting. even control + f'd (Two) see if y(o)u beat me to postin(G)

I'm allergic to milk and have been taking soy protein, soy milk, etc. for years with no problems. My evidence is anecdotal but silverhydra's is not.

If anyone thinks there is a problem with soy, go read examine.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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post #21

Obligatory Examine.com link: http://examine.com/faq/is-soy-good-or-bad-for-me.html

exactly (T)his. i (k)new you would beat me to posting. even control + f'd (Two) see if y(o)u beat me to postin(G) I'm allergic to milk and have been taking soy protein, soy milk, etc. for years with no problems. My evidence is anecdotal but silverhydra's is not. If anyone thinks there is a problem with soy, go read examine.

Why even drink soy "milk" why not water or some other liquid, or other animal milk you may not be allergic to?

It seems to me people are compelled to have a milk substitute whether due to allergy or ethical reasons as if we need to have something called milk in our fridges.

It reminds me of the tofurky a soy shaped turkey supposedly tastes like turkey, it would be like a person who eats a lot of meat making a carrot out of meat colouring it orange and making it taste like a carrot, why even bother.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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As much as people talk about how this is debunked, there was a period of about 6 months (early 30s) where i was drinking tons of Silk and i could swear it made me soft breasty, and i swear everything hardened up again when i quit.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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This might be completely hypothetical, but might there be a genetic component?

I'm convinced (based on my heavy soy intake as an Asian male with no ill effects) that some people are less prone to what the guy in the article experienced.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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exactly (T)his. i (k)new you would beat me to posting. even control + f'd (Two) see if y(o)u beat me to postin(G) I'm allergic to milk and have been taking soy protein, soy milk, etc. for years with no problems. My evidence is anecdotal but silverhydra's is not. If anyone thinks there is a problem with soy, go read examine.

Why even drink soy "milk" why not water or some other liquid, or other animal milk you may not be allergic to? It seems to me people are compelled to have a milk substitute whether due to allergy or ethical reasons as if we need to have something called milk in our fridges. It reminds me of the tofurky a soy shaped turkey supposedly tastes like turkey, it would be like a person who eats a lot of meat making a carrot…

Because Im a powerlifter. Powerlifters need calories and Soy milk + my protein powder tastes good but my protein powder with water tastes like gasoline (and soy milk has more calories too).

I used to do soy protein + water and it was pretty bad but I could handle it. I recently switched to Beef and Egg protein from Soy protein and it tastes amazing in chocolate soy milk.

When you can't eat cheese, most desserts, pizza, and anything with a questionable production practice ("did my food share a surface with a milk product?"), and much more, you eat things without a lot of taste. I like Soy milk because it tastes good and keeps me sane while getting me my calories.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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What a pile of first world problems. I suspect a lot fewer guys will quit sugar and lose weight instead of quitting soy after reading this. And diabetes makes soy estrogen mimicking hormones look like kids' play when it comes to erectile dysfunction. A guy in his 50s or 60s (well past when the boys are pumping out huge amounts of testosterone) drinking _3 quarts_ of soy milk per day is not exactly typical.

I had the awful experience of (at the age of 15) having my father decide to be a vegan (due to a mid-life crisis) and replace all protein sources in our house with tofu and tempeh. It was fucking awful, and on top of the constant gas I had (going to high school with bad gas is itself torture) I remember having soreness and tenderness in the breast region. My progress in the weight room (I played football and wrestled) crumbled. It was my coaches who suspected the vegan diet at home. They didn't necessarily pinpoint soy, but essentially came to their own conclusion that I wasn't able to digest the soy protein, explaining my sudden inability to put on muscle.

Eventually, after 2 months, I rebelled and began getting meat wherever and whenever I could. I'm still very resentful of my father's sudden switch to veganism at my expense. I am particularly hateful of the PETA fanatics (it was a pretty woman he dated) who converted him from a hunter and fisherman to a silly fuck who wears turquoise and preaches animal rights. Did I mention his vegan diet of over 18 years has resulted in him having bad heart disease?

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

exactly (T)his. i (k)new you would beat me to posting. even control + f'd (Two) see if y(o)u beat me to postin(G) I'm allergic to milk and have been taking soy protein, soy milk, etc. for years with no problems. My evidence is anecdotal but silverhydra's is not. If anyone thinks there is a problem with soy, go read examine.

Why even drink soy "milk" why not water or some other liquid, or other animal milk you may not be allergic to? It seems to me people are compelled to have a milk substitute whether due to allergy or ethical reasons as if we need to have something called milk in our fridges. It reminds me of the tofurky a soy shaped turkey supposedly tastes like turkey, it would be like a person who eats a lot of meat making a carrot…

I drink coffee with almond milk. I also drink it black, but not all the time. I use warm almond milk with espresso instead of a latte due to the large number of calories in a latte because of the milk. I used to drink two lattes a day.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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I have a friend who's son is being raised primarily by his ex-wife. They have a good relationship even divorced, especially where the son is concerned. Recently the boy stayed with his father for a week, during which he took him to the gym to get in shape. He's a little fat and his father wanted to help him work on his self-image. At the gym, the boy would not remove his shirt, and when he finally acquiesced and did his father found out it was because his son had considerable man-tits. Enough that they actually are looking like women's breasts.

The boy's mother had been feeding him soy milk and other soy products as a primary staple of their diet. She eventually caught on what was happening but only after it was too late. He's sworn off of soy. It's going to take considerable effort to undo what has happened to him, his doctor has even discussed the possibility of testosterone treatments to counteract the damage.

Re: Soy's Negative Effects (2009)

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This article is 4 years old and has been debunked over and over again. This has a links to a number of studies on the subject http://www.livestrong.com/article/548574-soy-protein-male-br...

That link has a reference (not a link) to one article that (apparently) provides contrary evidence. The only link provided debunks none of it.
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