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Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by csmuk »

davexunit wrote: post #110
jaysonelliot wrote: post #74

I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.

No reason to use a proprietary music player.

Every music player is proprietary somewhere be it codec, physical IC, transistor technology, speakers, headphones.

Software is a teeny little bit of the whole thing.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by aryastark »

Touche wrote: post #194
FedRegister wrote: post #34

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Except it is mostly abandoned. It requires GTK1 and hasn't been updated since 2007.

Aren't there several Winamp OS clones? I remember there being a few years ago but maybe everyone has moved on.

At least on Linux. The original was x11amp, which becamse XMMS. But there are much better options, especially if you want to go text mode. MOC (http://moc.daper.net/), or even mplayer if you just want simple playback. And of course, the original mpg123. Let's just say, open source music players are a solved problem.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by revnja »

hyrehas wrote: post #275
tteam wrote: post #252

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You can check out our personal cloud software Tonido ( http://www.tonido.com ). It organizes all your music, video collection and makes it available from anywhere. We have very good mobile apps for iOS, Android and even for Windows 8. You don't need to take our word. Just check the app ratings and reviews in app stores.

Tonido sucks. Nothing but issues and problems with it and support is non-existent. Stay away!

I wanted a free TonidoPlug but no one read my mind and sent it to me for free, so they're just awful.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by eksith »

Helianthus wrote: post #244
Achshar wrote: post #224

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What's this about? Parent's unsername is not TheSOB88.

HN has an amusingly childish policy of hellbanning individuals it deems inappropriate or otherwise objectionable--hellbanning hides the banned account's comments to everyone unless you set "showdead" to true in your account preferences. Some users have started kindly informing the hellbanned posters that, for whatever reasons, don't seem to notice that no one ever responds or upvotes their comments. If I may get on m…

That's all well and good, but let's take a look at what the trigger was https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5615120 . If you ran a community -- and realistically there's nothing stopping you from doing so -- would you tolerate that kind of nonsense? I know I wouldn't want to hang around there if you did.

You're right (to continue going slightly meta), it's a policy of elitism, but in the same vein as Wikipedia. They too are still around as a result.

Side note: Quality is quantifiable to a degree and is by no means a fictional notion.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by zem »

MrBra wrote: post #161
xal wrote: post #12

Thank you Justin Frankel for this wonderfully whimsical piece of software and all the code you have shared over the years. I wouldn't have been a programmer if it weren't for you being providing such a stellar role model.

And I bet many people don't even know that after Winamp Justin Frenkel started making his hands dirty with digital audio workstation coding and made a fantastic one! http://www.reaper.fm/ with a unbelievable set of features for 4 Mb (yessir!) and super competitive licensing options (but you can still try the full software free with no limitations whatsoever!). If you make music with your Pc or Mac this will shock you…

love this bit from http://www.reaper.fm/purchase.php:

Honest Business Model We offer a good product at a fair price.

We don't spend money and effort on marketing, complicated piracy protection, or other things that do not directly improve REAPER and the user experience.

We think the good will generated by playing fair and being responsive to users is more valuable to our business than short-term profits.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by [deleted] »

sbirchall wrote: post #258
metaphorm wrote: post #219

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you're only making the case for improvements to cloud data providers, not making the case that physical media is still worth using. physical media has enormous problems for anything besides long term archival use.

"physical media has enormous problems for anything besides long term archival use" for those of us that consider music as art that is precisely the point, especially re: children browsing their parents collections

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Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by icebraining »

amagumori wrote: post #260
smrtinsert wrote: post #192

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There is so much lost when moving to the cloud. Off the top of my head: You tie your data to one provider instead of simply physical media, you lose discoverability (will your kids browse your album choices 30 years from now?), exporting/importing quality is at the mercy of the provider (for example Amazon dropped several dozen mp3s when I migrated a few gigs to Google), and of course you place your data at the mercy…

i agree. however i wouldn't worry about your kids wanting to browse your music choices

That's such a tired cliché. Plenty of us share some music tastes with our parents.

Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013

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Post by icebraining »

altero wrote: post #282
rm999 wrote: post #100

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> This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud. You can have a consistent music library and can use any player client-side. Personally I prefer the spotify "all-you-can-listen" model, but I have a bunch of MP3s that aren't on spotify that I seamlessly stream from dropbox (either to winamp or the spotify client, which allows you to sync lo…

> Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud Since when? For start it drains battery much faster. Oh and you know, it does not work offline!

Plenty of cloud/online music services allow you to cache music offline to avoid those problems.
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