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Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
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Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
#252Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud. You can have a consistent music library and can use any player client-side. Personally I prefer the spotify "all-you-can-listen" model, but I have a bunch of MP3s that aren't on spotify that I seamlessly stream from dropbox (either to winamp or the spotify client, which allows you to sync lo…
There is so much lost when moving to the cloud. Off the top of my head: You tie your data to one provider instead of simply physical media, you lose discoverability (will your kids browse your album choices 30 years from now?), exporting/importing quality is at the mercy of the provider (for example Amazon dropped several dozen mp3s when I migrated a few gigs to Google), and of course you place your data at the mercy…
You can check out our personal cloud software Tonido (http://www.tonido.com). It organizes all your music, video collection and makes it available from anywhere. We have very good mobile apps for iOS, Android and even for Windows 8. You don't need to take our word. Just check the app ratings and reviews in app stores.
Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
#253I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.
At least with winamp, there weren't really any major changes since Justin Frankel left, and what made it amazing back then is still in the program now.
+ you can bypass iTunes and sync your iPod Classic using Winamp.
Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
#254I just switched back to Winamp after getting fed up with the latest release of iTunes. At least it's a real application that I can download and own for myself, and doesn't stop working just because it's no longer being supported. This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud, or use browser-based apps for things that matter to me. Hopefully they'll release the codebase to the world.
Why winamp? my understanding is that it's long been surpassed by other apps, i.e. foobar, even VLC
Because Winamp.
Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
#255There are ultimately two types of people in the comments right now: those that will miss Winamp and those laughing it was still around. Winamp worked. It played all your MP3s without any of the other fluff. It played your music in a very lightweight program. What was also nice was this was before every program auto-updated; so you'd manually have to go update it; except, the newer versions were adding features, not f…
I recently updated Winamp to 6.65, and it removed the ‘play tracks similar to …’ feature. That is the only difference I noticed.
Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
#256Earlier quoted context omitted.
Probably because the codebase stinks and releasing it would end up in multiple vulnerability discoveries.
How would the vulnerability discovery work? Is the current code encrypted so that it can't be viewed? My understanding of the process is that code is written in a language that must be compiled. After it is compiled, it is then "packaged" into an installer file, whose internals cannot be examined. After it is installed, it then consists of a directory full of files which help run the program, but these can still not…
Vulnerabilities can still be discovered in the compiled code, but they are easier to discover in the source code. Simply running a static analyser on the code will probably point out numerous possible vulnerabilities already.
Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
#257The magic moment was when we all realized, pretty much simultaneously, that CDs and radio were obsolete. And this wasn't from some iterative Moore's Law like growth in hard drive size, it was sudden algorithmic brilliance that allowed music to be compressed small enough to be easily downloaded and shared. Suddenly digital distribution seemed inevitable and obvious. We could listen to whole collections of songs very,…
"And this wasn't from some iterative Moore's Law"
It was WRT CPU power. I remember having to use some specially compiled for 486 player to just barely be able to play mp3s. Before that on my 386-40 I was below real time.
I'm pretty sure this is what I was using:
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mpg123-oss-i486
This was the days long before P2P, using binaries usenet groups. Or ripping songs yourself, which took quite a long time indeed (like 10 or 15 minutes per song?)
Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
#258Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is so much lost when moving to the cloud. Off the top of my head: You tie your data to one provider instead of simply physical media, you lose discoverability (will your kids browse your album choices 30 years from now?), exporting/importing quality is at the mercy of the provider (for example Amazon dropped several dozen mp3s when I migrated a few gigs to Google), and of course you place your data at the mercy…
you're only making the case for improvements to cloud data providers, not making the case that physical media is still worth using. physical media has enormous problems for anything besides long term archival use.
"physical media has enormous problems for anything besides long term archival use"
for those of us that consider music as art that is precisely the point, especially re: children browsing their parents collections
Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
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I'd pitch in towards the $20 a year for the domain + vps.
Will you also indemnify AOL against all third party claims should someone use the software, it messes up their Windows 9.3 filesystem, and they end up suing... however meritless the case may be? Will you accept responsibility for acting as the DMCA contact and updating the site within the time limits provided in the Safe Harbor provisions should a skin, plugin, or visualization infringe someone else's copyright? Will…
Would open sourcing the code get around that?
Re: Winamp shutting down on December 20th, 2013
#260Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is a great example of why I don't move all my data to the cloud Music is a great use-case for keeping data in the cloud. You can have a consistent music library and can use any player client-side. Personally I prefer the spotify "all-you-can-listen" model, but I have a bunch of MP3s that aren't on spotify that I seamlessly stream from dropbox (either to winamp or the spotify client, which allows you to sync lo…
There is so much lost when moving to the cloud. Off the top of my head: You tie your data to one provider instead of simply physical media, you lose discoverability (will your kids browse your album choices 30 years from now?), exporting/importing quality is at the mercy of the provider (for example Amazon dropped several dozen mp3s when I migrated a few gigs to Google), and of course you place your data at the mercy…
i agree. however i wouldn't worry about your kids wanting to browse your music choices