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Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Post by dylangs1030 »

aaronem wrote: post #218
D9u wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I change my OS every few weeks or so... Distro hopping. Or "Nixploration." OS is not necessarily tied to a single machine.

Seems like a lot of effort, that. What do you get for it?

It's not as much effort as it sounds. My home laptop has had Ubuntu, Mint, Mageia, Suse, Fedora, Arch, Windows 7, 8, OS X 10.7, 10.8, and just today, 10.9 on it in about a month (it's a mac).

I have an external hard drive with all my documents, projects, music, movies, etc. on it. What's absolutely essential is recopied to my hard drive each time. It's kind of addictive to dive into a new operating system and learn it every so often. That's why there's a term for it - distro hopping.

It's good for some things. It gets you very good at doing rote computer tasks because you do them over and over in slightly different environments each time - install homebrew, update ruby, install rvm, configure common programs, tweak preferences and small aspects of the OS, etc.

As a result, I can wipe my entire hard drive and bring it back up to my workflow speed in less than 3 hours on a linux distro I roll myself via Arch.

All that said, I like OS X, so I'll be sticking with Mavericks for a while now.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Post by meepmorp »

viseztrance wrote: post #250
meepmorp wrote: post #231

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Would you apply that same logic to Windows? Say between 7 and 8?

If they can cope with the UI, absolutely. Computers are a commodity. Personally I know very few people that even upgrade windows. They just buy a new machine (which like their current machine, already comes with windows preinstalled).

Companies often buy Windows upgrades without new hardware. But basically, as long as you hold a license for an OS already, upgrades ought to be free?

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Post by willimholte »

masklinn wrote: post #120
Zenst wrote: post #101

The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. ANother aspect would be that by in effect making this level o…

> The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. On the other hand, once upon a time Apple made you pay for software which also run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Back before Snow Leopard, that was $129 per user (though installable on…

IIRC it was not legal to install on multiple machines (perhaps it was legal for multiple personal machines?).

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Post by aroch »

corresation wrote: post #221
jasoncartwright wrote: post #112

Here is the App Store link to upgrade now... https://itunes.apple.com/app/os-x-mavericks/id675248567?mt=1...

Installed it on a Mac Mini (3rd gen i7) and after the install it sat on a blank screen (with mouse cursor), but a forced restart and all was perfect and everything is operating brilliantly. Fantastic treat that it is free.

Kernel Caches that aren't cleared properly will do this, the display drivers changes significantly and they're stored in PRAM

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Post by kevinpet »

AwayMachine wrote: post #222
cmyr wrote: post #216

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For what it's worth, the 'premium prices' argument is starting to sound a little dated.

Macbook Air starts at $999. All I want to do is browse the Internet. I could buy 3 Chromebooks for the price of that Macbook Air. Or 1 Chromebook and save money.

And I commute by bicycle, so I have no need to buy a Hyundai, but that doesn't mean a Hyundai is overpriced.

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Post by 3825 »

willimholte wrote: post #253
masklinn wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. On the other hand, once upon a time Apple made you pay for software which also run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Back before Snow Leopard, that was $129 per user (though installable on…

IIRC it was not legal to install on multiple machines (perhaps it was legal for multiple personal machines?).

No, but there was no technological measure preventing you (serial number or phoning home) that would stop you as far as I can recall.

You can buy a single copy or a family pack for five computers.

http://www.amazon.com/Mac-10-4-Tiger-Family-Pack/dp/B0007LW1...

http://www.amazon.com/Apple-Mac-10-4-Tiger-VERSION/dp/B0002G...

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Post by [deleted] »

Zenst wrote: post #101

The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. ANother aspect would be that by in effect making this level o…

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Post by nwhitehead »

sarreph wrote: post #206
Touche wrote: post #204

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You can't legally run an OSX VM on a non-Apple computer.

FYI: http://www.lockergnome.com/osx/2012/02/24/are-hackintosh-com...

That article agrees with Touche, unless I'm missing something.

EULA: "[you are free] to install, use and run up to two (2) additional copies or instances of the Apple Software within virtual operating system environments on each Mac Computer you own or control that is already running the Apple Software."

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Post by cenhyperion »

mturmon wrote: post #215
midgetjones wrote: post #117

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I think that it's most likely they want everyone on the latest OSX for the same reasons that it's good to have everyone on the latest iOS. Whatever they're planning, getting everyone on board is obviously an important part of that. I think the biggest thing over the last two keynotes is the iWork update - MS have been ridicuslously slow in the one area they could have won, which was bringing Office to iOS. I'm pretty…

"...the iWork update..." This seems to be really powerful. I've been surprised, during the last two demos of iWork, at the lack of oohs and aahs in the audience when things like (last time) the web-based editing, and (this time) the collaboration on live documents were demo'ed.

They don't get oohs and aahs because exactly the same thing has been possible via google docs for several years. It's impressive, yes, but not groundbreaking.

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Post by yuhong »

masklinn wrote: post #120
Zenst wrote: post #101

The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. ANother aspect would be that by in effect making this level o…

> The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. On the other hand, once upon a time Apple made you pay for software which also run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Back before Snow Leopard, that was $129 per user (though installable on…

Not before System 7.1 released in 1992 though.
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