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Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Post by ctdonath »

D9u wrote: post #177
tomschlick wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah if by breakthrough you mean shits the bed. The reason OSX works so well is because Apple has a limited set of hardware they have to support vs the wild west of hardware that windows has to support.

No, by "breakthrough" I mean support common x86 devices, which OS X does support to a limited degree.

OS X exists entirely to facilitate selling more Apple hardware. Apple has zero interest in giving anyone a reason to buy anything other than Apple computers (broadly defined from Mac Pro to iPod Shuffle).

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Post by brymaster »

comex wrote: post #159
brymaster wrote: post #122

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No, because third party alternatives like AirParrot or Beamer work just as well and without the hardware restriction.

They may work, but they don't work just as well.

Oh yes, you're right. They don't work just as well, they work better.

AirParrot has additional features like sending only one specific application window to the ATV and control over quality.

Beamer lets you seamlessly stream any kind of movie format you want and also gives control over subtitles.

Both work all the way back on 10.6. I don't suppose you could give me any advantages of Apple-branded AirPlay Mirroring huh?

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Post by andoriyu »

georgebarnett wrote: post #125
molsongolden wrote: post #41

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No luck for us 1st gen 2006 macbook users!

Sadly the first Core Duo's were 32 bit. With that in mind, I can understand Apples motivation to move the whole line to 64 as soon as is possible.

Sadly first Core Duo's sucked so much that I spent way more time on G4 than on CD.

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Post by thrillgore »

Zenst wrote: post #101

The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. ANother aspect would be that by in effect making this level o…

>Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have.

I have a Macbook Pro 5,1 and only about three weeks ago did I upgrade to Mountain Lion from Lion. I typically wait a couple of point releases to make sure all the beachballs are resolved.

I do need real multi-monitor support though...

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Post by mturmon »

midgetjones wrote: post #117
Zenst wrote: post #101

The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. ANother aspect would be that by in effect making this level o…

I think that it's most likely they want everyone on the latest OSX for the same reasons that it's good to have everyone on the latest iOS. Whatever they're planning, getting everyone on board is obviously an important part of that. I think the biggest thing over the last two keynotes is the iWork update - MS have been ridicuslously slow in the one area they could have won, which was bringing Office to iOS. I'm pretty…

"...the iWork update..."

This seems to be really powerful. I've been surprised, during the last two demos of iWork, at the lack of oohs and aahs in the audience when things like (last time) the web-based editing, and (this time) the collaboration on live documents were demo'ed.

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Post by cmyr »

csense wrote: post #201

I haven't used any Apple machine since 2004. Some HN'ers like Apple, so I've been kind of interested to see what Apple machines do that PC's don't. But I don't want to pay premium prices for iGoods. Does this mean I can run the new OS in a VM to check out the Apple ecosystem? Or is this only free (as in beer) to people who have an existing paid license for a previous Apple operating system?

For what it's worth, the 'premium prices' argument is starting to sound a little dated.

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Post by gnur »

csense wrote: post #201

I haven't used any Apple machine since 2004. Some HN'ers like Apple, so I've been kind of interested to see what Apple machines do that PC's don't. But I don't want to pay premium prices for iGoods. Does this mean I can run the new OS in a VM to check out the Apple ecosystem? Or is this only free (as in beer) to people who have an existing paid license for a previous Apple operating system?

Apple devices aren't really that overpriced. Try to get a comparable device (power, weight, battery life, slimness) for the same price and it's harder then you think. If you can find me a good alternative for a 11" macbook air for less then an macbook air I'd be delighted to hear what it is because I've been dying for a good ultralight laptop that can run ubuntu without dealing with efi/uefi/bootcamp stuff.

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Post by aaronem »

D9u wrote: post #190
stcredzero wrote: post #160

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Exactly. That's when people think, "Well, if I have to change OS anyhow..."

I change my OS every few weeks or so... Distro hopping. Or "Nixploration." OS is not necessarily tied to a single machine.

Seems like a lot of effort, that. What do you get for it?

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Post by jfb »

chollida1 wrote: post #35
panacea wrote: post #6

A boot to the face of Microsoft.

I'm not sure I understand this. Windows 8.1 is about as equivalent to OS X 10.9 as you can get and it was also free. What exactly is the "boot to the face" here?

Apple and Microsoft are in almost entirely disjoint businesses, anyway. I doubt that there's much useful analogizing to be done about their current respective situations.

FULL DISCLOSURE: Apple employee.

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Post by acomjean »

wtallis wrote: post #192
xenonite wrote: post #141

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The most technical reason for not offering an upgrade to all 10.5 users is: PowerPC-Architecture! 10.6 was the first Intel-Only OS X, and 10.5 the last one for PowerPCs.

The question isn't why they aren't offering upgrades to all 10.5 users, it's why they're not offering upgrades to any 10.5 users.

As someone who is using Snow Leopard (10.6) on some older macs. The path to upgrading seems to be through apple support or buying a snow leopard disc. (as the app store offers me mountain lion upgrades on machines that don't support it).
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