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Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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post #124

I love how it's free for the "first time ever"... ... except before... I think it was... System 7.5? All new OSes used to be free for Mac and Apple II.

OS X is a seperate OS. Apple didn't say that this is the first time they had given away an OS. They said this is the first free OS X release. Which it is.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bootable DVD though? Really? In light of recent events involving the NSA and leaked documents, yes. A bootable DVD. Really. For some heavy-duty discussion on the withertos and wherefores, take a quick gander at a recent thread, over here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6532642 Remember that part where GCHQ stormed the offices of The Guardian, and took an angle grinder to one of their laptops? http://www.thegu…

In light of the recent NSA revelations, I'd want to use Linux, not Mac, for an ephemeral offline OS. Of course, Schneider uses Windows, so to each his own.

And I definitely agree with you on that.

Just sayin'...

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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post #101

The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. ANother aspect would be that by in effect making this level o…

Even if your Mac is no longer supported or on Apple care you can always book an appointment with the genius bar to get questions answered regarding setting up email accounts or if something is malfunctioning.

Apple also sells one-on-one sessions if you are so inclined or need longer sessions than what the genius bar can help you with.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#174

Some would say that Mavericks was launched for free because Windows 8.1 did the same. Those same people might also say that Apple did one better by offering the update for computers running older than the most recent version of their software.

Apple still makes money selling the computers that are running free OS X Mavericks. Microsoft makes no money by giving away Windows 8.1 for free to consumers.

> Microsoft makes no money by giving away Windows 8.1 for free to consumers.

Of course they make money from it. That's very naive of you to think that they don't.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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post #101

The whole free OS which can only run upon hardware they have already sold you is reminding me of how IBM used to sell AIX and moved into giving it away free as it would only run upon hardware only they made and sold you. Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have. ANother aspect would be that by in effect making this level o…

> Question is though, what about support. You have a 3 year old Mac of some flavour and upgrade to this OS, what about issues you may have.

If you have an Apple store nearby you can walk in and get help. There is a limit to what they will do, my anecdotal experience is that most people with software issues get them fixed in a few minutes without going to repair.

But if you don't you are SOL with a >3 year old product.

Here are the timelines for AppleCare: http://www.apple.com/support/products/mac.html

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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post #6

A boot to the face of Microsoft.

Microsoft sells software, Apple sells hardware with matching software. But make no mistake, they are a hardware company - OSX won't even run without a chip confirming its an authentic Mac. The idea that they would charge for these smaller OSX updates is bizarre, and the price point has been in the "we need this for accounting" range in the past.

>Microsoft sells software, Apple sells hardware with matching software.

Something Microsoft would love, love, love to change about themselves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Surface

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post #78

Real breakthrough would be for OS X to run on Windoze devices... If you're a distro hopping nixer there's nothing to see here... Move along.

Yeah if by breakthrough you mean shits the bed. The reason OSX works so well is because Apple has a limited set of hardware they have to support vs the wild west of hardware that windows has to support.

No, by "breakthrough" I mean support common x86 devices, which OS X does support to a limited degree.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Wasn't there a McCain-Feingold rule which made free upgrades illegal that entangled Apple in the past? Edit: Sarbanes-Oxley, not McCain-Feingold. I had forgotten.

I think you may be thinking of the Sarbanes–Oxley Act, which is what Apple cited for charging for some upgrades in the past (that and GAAP)[1]. If I remember correctly, things have changed on that level now, though I don't know if it's through legislation or through a reform of accounting practices [1] http://appleinsider.com/article/?id=2419

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Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Hypothesis: Apple OS X is now knocking hard at the doors of the enterprise, and it's removing every barrier to entry except their main source of revenue, hardware costs.

iWork is more than good enough for many MS Office use cases. If you work on documents that you often don't need to exchange with co-workers, then you don't really have any barriers to switching. Obviously, financial analysts with their massive models in excel aren't going anywhere anytime soon, but real estate agents like my mother and others like her have few reasons not to switch.

Next time someone goes to upgrade office, they are going to have to compare an expensive software license with putting that money into a brand new computer instead and who doesn't love having a fresh new computer.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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post #123

First i heard this i immidiately gone to apple.com/osx looked for iso download. Yes i am naive like that.

We can download hundreds of fully functional iso for a myriad of unix-like systems... Why is it naive to expect Apple to follow suit?

Is it their software which is so costly, or is it the hardware upon which that software runs?

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