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Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#81
post #38

Free as in free beer, not as in free speech.

Just give it up, and call it "liberated software" or something. Language is defined by usage, and no one outside the FOSS community thinks that's what "free" means. (And while we're at it, the media is never, ever going to adopt the word "cracker" either.)

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel the need to point out that you can run Mac OS X on pretty much any recent Intel processor and a wide range of motherboards. It is not locked to Apple hardware.

Have you seen the docs for what it takes to get that running? Have you seen the docs for what it takes to complete a normal "update"? Trying to run OS X on non-Apple hardware makes the old days of "cumbersome" Linux-systems look like kindergarten-stuff. I'd hardly say it just runs.

If you spend the time to research and get the parts that are supported by OS X, building a Hackintosh is breeze. I have had no problems with the one I built.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#83
post #42

So where can I go to download an ISO? I'd like to burn a bootable DVD, and load it up as a non-networked offline install. Is such a thing even possible?

There are a few tools that will do this for you, basically copying the hidden restore partition onto a USB stick. Bootable DVD though? Really?

  > Bootable DVD though? Really?
In light of recent events involving the NSA and leaked documents, yes. A bootable DVD. Really.

For some heavy-duty discussion on the withertos and wherefores, take a quick gander at a recent thread, over here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6532642

Remember that part where GCHQ stormed the offices of The Guardian, and took an angle grinder to one of their laptops?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/20/nsa-snowden-fil...

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#84
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you're being credulous, I'll bite: Just because it's "free" and you can update systems that are on Snow Leopard, doesn't mean it'll update all systems on Snow Leopard. For those paying attention, Apple killed off quite a bit of hardware with 10.8. Those certainly aren't upgradable to Mavericks.

To call that planned obsolescence is completely ridiculous.

It's not. All hardware has a planned lifecycle and it's just up to them to draw the line in the sand. They'll also do it through software updates by making less features available on the older model in order to compel you to upgrade to the newer. "AirPlay Mirroring" only available in Sandy Bridge or greater because of the usage of Intel QuickSync is an example of that.

For any cocoa/obj-c dev that's dealt with constant deprecated API's on Mac, they know exactly what I'm talking about.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#85

Right. Apple event today. What on earth compelled Nokia to launch their new Windows-tablet on the same day?

they knew it's crap and wanted to bury it?

Dunno. I looked at an overview of the thing, and it seemed not too bad. Design looked nice, the battery in the keyboard cover thing seemed cool.

I can't imagine buying over an iPad, but I could see where it might appeal to more MS oriented folks.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft sells software, Apple sells hardware with matching software. But make no mistake, they are a hardware company - OSX won't even run without a chip confirming its an authentic Mac. The idea that they would charge for these smaller OSX updates is bizarre, and the price point has been in the "we need this for accounting" range in the past.

> OSX won't even run without a chip confirming its an authentic Mac. You mean EFI? Because Macs don't have any special hardware inside, and especially not any "authentic Mac" chips.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Management_Controller

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OSX won't even run without a chip confirming its an authentic Mac. You mean EFI? Because Macs don't have any special hardware inside, and especially not any "authentic Mac" chips.

They have at least one special chip that must be emulated - the smc. If you havent read the story of the copy protection poem you should check it out.

And it's worth pointing out that the SMC does more than copy protection. It's also responsible for some power management functions and practically all the thermal management - which is nice because it means you get sensible fan speeds even when running a different OS that doesn't have drivers for the Mac.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#88
post #6

A boot to the face of Microsoft.

Windows 8.1 upgrade is free. How is this any different?

Mavericks is free from Snow Leopard onwards (because Leopard didn't have the appstore).

In terms of period that's equivalent to giving 8.1 free to all W7 users (both SL and W7 were released mid-2009)

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#90
post #54

So where can I go to download an ISO? I'd like to burn a bootable DVD, and load it up as a non-networked offline install. Is such a thing even possible?

Lion DiskMaker has a beta for creating a Mavericks GM disk. It should be updated soon to support the release. You just download the installer from the App Store and run Lion DiskMaker. http://liondiskmaker.com/

The installer itself can do this:

sudo /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app/Contents/Resources/createinstallmedia –volume /Volumes/WHATEVER_DISK –applicationpath /Applications/Install\ OS\ X\ Mavericks.app –nointeraction

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