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Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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post #62

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I'm not sure I understand this. Windows 8.1 is about as equivalent to OS X 10.9 as you can get and it was also free. What exactly is the "boot to the face" here?

Except Mavericks is free for everyone (who can run it). I have Windows 7 and MS is not offering 8 or 8.1 to me for free.

No kidding. You didn't buy your laptop/desktop from Microsoft, did you? Maybe you should take up your claim for free Windows 8 with Lenovo/Dell/HP/Toshiba.

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post #78

Real breakthrough would be for OS X to run on Windoze devices... If you're a distro hopping nixer there's nothing to see here... Move along.

Yeah if by breakthrough you mean shits the bed. The reason OSX works so well is because Apple has a limited set of hardware they have to support vs the wild west of hardware that windows has to support.

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post #42

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There are a few tools that will do this for you, basically copying the hidden restore partition onto a USB stick. Bootable DVD though? Really?

> Bootable DVD though? Really? In light of recent events involving the NSA and leaked documents, yes. A bootable DVD. Really. For some heavy-duty discussion on the withertos and wherefores, take a quick gander at a recent thread, over here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6532642 Remember that part where GCHQ stormed the offices of The Guardian, and took an angle grinder to one of their laptops? http://www.thegu…

In light of the recent NSA revelations, I'd want to use Linux, not Mac, for an ephemeral offline OS.

Of course, Schneider uses Windows, so to each his own.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Some would say that Mavericks was launched for free because Windows 8.1 did the same. Those same people might also say that Apple did one better by offering the update for computers running older than the most recent version of their software.

I think the bigger hit to Microsoft, or just as big, is the free and much improved iWorks. Now there are 2 office suites from 2 big companies being offered for free (Docs and iWorks), which are becoming increasingly more popular not just with consumers, but a lot of enterprise customers, too.

Microsoft should be terrified. Both of their cash cows are getting rapidly commoditized.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Some would say that Mavericks was launched for free because Windows 8.1 did the same. Those same people might also say that Apple did one better by offering the update for computers running older than the most recent version of their software.

This has been coming a long time. The updates were already very cheap (20something Euros) compared to the old days (> 100 Euro if I remember correctly) and it fits in with the iOS strategy of having the latest version on every device. OS X upgrade revenue is now such a minuscule piece of the pie that it probably doesn't matter anymore.

> the old days (> 100 Euro if I remember correctly)

Yes, 129 for single-user and 169 for family (5-user).

And these are not so old days, Leopard was 129 and that was in 2007. Snow Leopard and Lion were 30, and ML was 20 (in USD, IIRC $129 translated to 129€ but ML is "only" 18€)

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#136

Some would say that Mavericks was launched for free because Windows 8.1 did the same. Those same people might also say that Apple did one better by offering the update for computers running older than the most recent version of their software.

Apple still makes money selling the computers that are running free OS X Mavericks. Microsoft makes no money by giving away Windows 8.1 for free to consumers.

> Apple still makes money selling the computers that are running free OS X Mavericks.

Well you can install Mavericks on machines from 2007, that's money from quite a long time ago.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Bootable DVD though? Really? In light of recent events involving the NSA and leaked documents, yes. A bootable DVD. Really. For some heavy-duty discussion on the withertos and wherefores, take a quick gander at a recent thread, over here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6532642 Remember that part where GCHQ stormed the offices of The Guardian, and took an angle grinder to one of their laptops? http://www.thegu…

In light of the recent NSA revelations, I'd want to use Linux, not Mac, for an ephemeral offline OS. Of course, Schneider uses Windows, so to each his own.

Offline means nothing in a world where NSA slides reference jumping airgaps with hardware backdoors.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

#139

Wasn't there a McCain-Feingold rule which made free upgrades illegal that entangled Apple in the past? Edit: Sarbanes-Oxley, not McCain-Feingold. I had forgotten.

I think you may be thinking of the Sarbanes–Oxley Act, which is what Apple cited for charging for some upgrades in the past (that and GAAP)[1]. If I remember correctly, things have changed on that level now, though I don't know if it's through legislation or through a reform of accounting practices

[1]http://appleinsider.com/article/?id=2419

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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post #32

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Linux is not free, you still need to buy a computer.

Any computer. Including the one you already own, and none of which are produced by the Linux Foundation. I will give that driver support for wifi cards may make some computers more awkward than others. It's very rare these days that any common device other than a wifi card or a just this week released graphics card causes problems any more. (As an aside, how do you escape asterisks here?)

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