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Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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Taxes are alot higher than in Russia. You'll probably end up paying 50-60% in total taxes (income + sales + various other hidden taxes on consumer goods etc.). So thats something to consider.

If you are a freelancer, as an employee it's around 30%.

Yes, but your employer pays taxes too. It's supposed to add up to the same amount (although big businesses often manage to game the tax system in one way or another).

Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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Be ready to pay up for a place to stay in Stockholm, I'm native and I gotta stay in queue in order to get to rent. There is no free market for apartments - at least not for rentals. You can take your chance at the Swedish equivalent of Craigs List or get to know someone. I've given up and decided to buy. Taxes aren't as high as people complain about, unless you're a freelancer. Small businesses get screwed royally an…

I am a native and agree with you, but the crimes isn't that bad as you describe. No problem to go home late at night if your in the city. If you live in the suburbs (the less clasy ones) I can imagen that the crime rate is higher.

I like Stockholm a lot and think it´s a great oppertunity to come here.

Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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post #9

Be ready to pay up for a place to stay in Stockholm, I'm native and I gotta stay in queue in order to get to rent. There is no free market for apartments - at least not for rentals. You can take your chance at the Swedish equivalent of Craigs List or get to know someone. I've given up and decided to buy. Taxes aren't as high as people complain about, unless you're a freelancer. Small businesses get screwed royally an…

I think your nativity makes you miss a few problems simply because they never cross your path. For example: > Language skills... nothing to say here. Every Swede can speak and write English. You won't have problems here. This is true insofar as that I've been studying Interaction Design in Sweden for one and a half years now (one half year to go) and I have not needed to learn Swedish. However, I've been informed tha…

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Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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I consulted with a startup in Stockholm Sweden for 2.5 months at the start of the year. It was an amazing experience, and needless to say I had an absolute blast. Made many great friends, a few of which have come to SF to visit me since. It is cold Dec-Feb, but around March starts getting nice, and Swedes come out and play. General Rules: - Don't talk to people on the subway. Swedes like their public transportation s…

Everything is he wrote is true, expect the bit about pizza. Swedish pizza is a culinary abomination and the people responsible for the kebab pizza should stand trial for crimes against humanity.

If I could improve one thing about Sweden it would definitely be the pizza.

Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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If you have never lived outside your native culture before, then moving and immersing yourself in a different culture will be mind expanding. Even if you don't like the experience, you will learn who you are better. That knowledge will strengthen you for the rest of your life.

Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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A couple of things: You have to be absolutely certain that they will supply living and work permit for both you and your family. Immigration laws are very strict in Scandinavia, so you'd obviously want to be certain there won't be any nasty surprises with getting your wife and children here. Living costs in Moscow and Stockholm is not that far from each other. A full-time position as a front-end developer usually won…

>Front-end contracting is typically full-time contracts on-location for between 6 and 12 months. It typically pays 100+ USD an hour, meaning a monthly income of 16K USD or so given a standard 40 hour workweek. A lot of those 16K will go away in taxes and social costs though. I am not sure what most freelancers use for estimates but somewhere between 50-75% should probably be deducted before getting a comparable numbe…

Agreed. Freelancers and small business although backbone of the economy, the are not receiving much love from the Government... It's a shame.

Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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post #14

A couple of things: You have to be absolutely certain that they will supply living and work permit for both you and your family. Immigration laws are very strict in Scandinavia, so you'd obviously want to be certain there won't be any nasty surprises with getting your wife and children here. Living costs in Moscow and Stockholm is not that far from each other. A full-time position as a front-end developer usually won…

In Scandinavia the immigration laws are incredibly relaxed. However, you may run into issues if you have European ancestry - it will be more difficult to get in.

Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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FWIW, Stockholm is a very pleasant place to live. I had a chance to live in many countries and Sweden has this very unique calm, balanced and relaxed vibe to it. It is bloody obvious compared to Moscow, but it is also evident compared to Finland for example.

Also, I know a couple of Russians who went from no Swedish to conversational level in just 3 months. It's a simple language to pick up.

All in all, just go, talk to them and have a look around. Even if you accept and end up regretting it, you still will end up with a bit of immersion living in another (comfortable and interesting) country and that never hurts ;)

Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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post #9

Be ready to pay up for a place to stay in Stockholm, I'm native and I gotta stay in queue in order to get to rent. There is no free market for apartments - at least not for rentals. You can take your chance at the Swedish equivalent of Craigs List or get to know someone. I've given up and decided to buy. Taxes aren't as high as people complain about, unless you're a freelancer. Small businesses get screwed royally an…

I think your nativity makes you miss a few problems simply because they never cross your path. For example: > Language skills... nothing to say here. Every Swede can speak and write English. You won't have problems here. This is true insofar as that I've been studying Interaction Design in Sweden for one and a half years now (one half year to go) and I have not needed to learn Swedish. However, I've been informed tha…

You're partially right here. But for software engineering or general tech/science, English is sufficient. You don't need Swedish. We got a couple of English speakers at my current place of employment and there are no issues here.

But yeah, regarding other types of job, without Swedish, you'll have it tough. My partner speaks fluent Mandarin and English and has a Bachelors degree with honours. Will probably have an incredible tough time finding a job in "Communications". Ugh... Shit degree but you didn't hear that from me.

Re: Ask HN: Should I go to Sweden for work?

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post #34

I consulted with a startup in Stockholm Sweden for 2.5 months at the start of the year. It was an amazing experience, and needless to say I had an absolute blast. Made many great friends, a few of which have come to SF to visit me since. It is cold Dec-Feb, but around March starts getting nice, and Swedes come out and play. General Rules: - Don't talk to people on the subway. Swedes like their public transportation s…

Everything is he wrote is true, expect the bit about pizza. Swedish pizza is a culinary abomination and the people responsible for the kebab pizza should stand trial for crimes against humanity. If I could improve one thing about Sweden it would definitely be the pizza.

Funny, I am a fan of the kebab pizza. The place on the corner of Götgatan and Ölandsgatan was my favorite.
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