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Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

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Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

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The subject is interesting, especially because I'm married to a Japanese - but man do I hate articles that go round and round like this one. Here, have a little bit of a sociological hypothesis - but let's not go too deep for your little brains shall we? Here, have a little bit of anecdotal evidence instead. Enough of that? Alright, let's start over again. [...] Oh I'm outa time, let's end the article now, kthxbye. I…

There is. It's called a university press release.

Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

#252

The subject is interesting, especially because I'm married to a Japanese - but man do I hate articles that go round and round like this one. Here, have a little bit of a sociological hypothesis - but let's not go too deep for your little brains shall we? Here, have a little bit of anecdotal evidence instead. Enough of that? Alright, let's start over again. [...] Oh I'm outa time, let's end the article now, kthxbye. I…

There is. It's called a university press release.

Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

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post #154

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Wars aren't generally fought over resources these days.

Wars aren't overtly fought over resources these days, but the US has spent a lot of money in Iraq and 'stabilizing' the middle east (lot of good it's done). There happens to be oil in that area.

There happens to be oil in that area.

Which we could have simply purchased at a tiny fraction of the cost of going to war for it.

I'm still waiting for all of that free oil we "won" to start making its way over here. It's almost as if the war wasn't fought for oil, but for oil companies. Gee.

Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

#254
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Yes, but you can talk about demographic trends without delving into fetishism and sexualization. As strange as it sounds, there isn't much relation between sex and the choice to have children, from my understanding Japanese women are rejecting motherhood because it cancels whatever limited career opportunities they may have had. In other words, like most demographic trends, it is driven by economics. Of course to a s…

While I don't disagree with you that economics and the plight of the working woman in Japan is a major cause of the dismal birth rate, there's definitely more to it than just that. In particular, the "herbivore man" phenomenon is definitely A Thing in Japan, and the WP article claims that anywhere between 36% and 71% (!) of Japanese men under 30 now self-identify as herbivores: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore…

but their mutts, which japan doesn't work

Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

#255

ever notice how the corporate media is always trying get more people into the developed nations? Mass immigration! More people! More People! More Babies! MOAR! MOAR! This baby dearth, combined with the ability of the japanese to keep their elites from increasing mass immigration, means less supply of labor, which means higher wage (remember supply and demand? It applies to labor, too). That means that the corporation…

Did you notice that the current system is built upon growth? Growth in everything, in populations, users, consumers, prices, resource extraction etc etc

Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

#256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm counting war over the increasingly scarce resources as part of the risk, so the current influence of mildly scarce resources over politics is evidence. I agree with your point that, from a nationalist perspective, population size is basically nation size.

Wars aren't generally fought over resources these days.

Obama directly mentioned resources ("energy") as a reason to possibly use military power in Syria.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/dissecting-obamas-speech-at-the...

Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

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post #226

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This is a stupid article, and young people in Japan have not stopped having sex. It doesn't claim that. It says that 25% of young men and 45% of young women are repulsed by sexual contact. That means that 75% of men and 55% of women are still open to it (and, presumably, having it). I'd bet that if you looked at an American college campus, you'd find similar behavioral statistics, due to the declining ability of youn…

I would argue that it's not so much that most women "don't want" casual sex, but that they are judged more harshly for having it. I believe women's sex drives are quite a bit higher than is reported, mainly because women are ashamed to admit their strictly sexual desires.

I agree. You just need to witness hordes of Swedish women when they're travelling :)

Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

#258
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, but you can talk about demographic trends without delving into fetishism and sexualization. As strange as it sounds, there isn't much relation between sex and the choice to have children, from my understanding Japanese women are rejecting motherhood because it cancels whatever limited career opportunities they may have had. In other words, like most demographic trends, it is driven by economics. Of course to a s…

While I don't disagree with you that economics and the plight of the working woman in Japan is a major cause of the dismal birth rate, there's definitely more to it than just that. In particular, the "herbivore man" phenomenon is definitely A Thing in Japan, and the WP article claims that anywhere between 36% and 71% (!) of Japanese men under 30 now self-identify as herbivores: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore…

> Can you imagine a survey in any Western country where even 36% of young men would willingly fess up to voluntarily avoiding any romantic relationships?

Well I'm from Australia and according to the sensationalist press some not insignificant proportion of men are actively avoiding marriage, and Sydney is supposedly seething with 30something year old women unable to find a mate (despite their willingness to go out hunting in packs on a Saturday night).

BBC go your hardest.

Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

#259

Sex nowadays became a redundant, obsolete, risky, overcomplicated act which you can totally avoid with the help of good porn. So why bother with searching partner, if you can have all of sex benefits alone, but with porn or good imagination.

Perhaps you are a japanese?

Anyway, how is sex risky and overcomplicated (unless sharp objects, diseases and coordinated acrobatics are involved)? Sex should be simple fun. Maybe you refer to dating or the search for a partner.

If today's gay hookup apps are any indicator, straight hookups will become instant gratification at the tap of a button, soon. We 're not there yet because of cultural hangups.

Re: Have young people in Japan stopped having sex?

#260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wars aren't generally fought over resources these days.

Obama directly mentioned resources ("energy") as a reason to possibly use military power in Syria. http://www.globalresearch.ca/dissecting-obamas-speech-at-the...

That's just rationalization.
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