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This story/video needs a warning. Warning: there is a graphic disgusting killing of an animal in the video.

From TFA: At 3:23, a cop shoots the dog four times. The dog wither and dies. What did you expect?

Those words are well below the fold, under the video.

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Why are guns even used on dogs? Shouldn't there be a way to sedate aggressive dogs? I just don't understand. Getting shot by a gun as a human or dog is almost always going to be fatal.

What are you going to do? Put chloroform over its nose? Inject it with a sedative? Spray it with something?

May I ask whether you have you ever owned a dog? ;)

I can't think of any quicker and overall safer means of sedation than simply shooting it in the head. It's sad that a dog has to die, but compared to the mess an angry dog can make, its life is simply not worth much.

Not that I really want to sound like I'm defending the policepeople in question here, because that dog shouldn't have died - but it shouldn't have died because there shouldn't have been a situation where they needed to shoot it, not because shooting an attacking dog is the wrong thing to do.

(Yes, I have had a dog. I loved it very much, and it seemed to return the favour. But you have to be clear-eyed about these things.)

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Animal control has ways to sedate aggressive dogs; police have guns. Every police officer I have talked to has been trained to shoot a loose dog that is acting aggressive towards them.

Yes but animal control needs time to select the dose of the sedative and prepare the dart (or jab stick). This isn't a video game. Also animal control traps or nets the animal before attempting to sedate it. You can't just stick the needle anywhere.

I think you misunderstood my comment, since I agree with every word of your reply. Cops don't have tools to capture aggressive animals because it's not their job and not what they are trained for.

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This story/video needs a warning. Warning: there is a graphic disgusting killing of an animal in the video.

The video is age restricted on YouTube.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sedation is not realistic, usually only animal control officers have them and even then they usually don't have it with them. BUT... Every officer near where I live carries a nightclub/billy stick/baton etc. I've been in situation with aggressive dogs out in the country and often a simple kick is enough to back them off... Discharging a firearm at a fast moving animal is reckless and begging for a bystander to be inj…

They kicked the dog before shooting it.

Correction. They PROVOKED the dog before shooting it.

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I'm a bit conflicted; on the one hand I think the officers were correct to shoot the dog once it was jumping at them and was undeterred by being kicked. On the other hand killing a dog is going to get a lot more people mad at (and raise awareness of) the over-the-top reactions of officers to people videotaping cops.

My first thought was firing a gun with so many people standing very close. LEO's have other non lethal means that could work on a dog.

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I hate to be "that" guy, but:

Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

There is nothing Hacker News related here. At BEST we can tangentially relate it to our civil liberties, but that is a stretch. Let's keep things like this on Reddit and the other sites that will cover it in its entirety, and focus on technology here.

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Animal control is not 10 feet away ready with tranquilizer darts. Police need to defend themselves from aggressive animals. They can't take the chance that it's "just jumping up on them a little." They certainly can't release the man under arrest so he can restrain his dog; that potentially would have been an even more dangerous situation.

Something about killing aggressive dogs makes people seem to forget that they are _aggressive_ dogs. If it had been an aggressive bull or a bear, this would have been a non-issue.

Edit to expand on my thoughts.

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Sorry, but what did you expect? California Police Arrest Man for Video Recording, then Kill his Dog That seems pretty clear to me.

Those words did not prepare me for what I saw.

Perhaps the first line of the post would have, then?

  In one of the most shocking videos I’ve seen
  since launching this blog six years ago...
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