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#32So many questions! Why would they think it was alright to cuff the videographer? Why wouldn't they expect a dog to attempt to protect his owner? If they had successfully cuffed the gentleman and taken him away in the squad car, would they have left the dog in a hot car (a crime here in Pennsylvania)? Why weren't the other people taking videos also arrested? I hope some of these police officers lose their jobs, but ap…
Yes, that is sad and it makes me angry too but it's hardly relevant for HN, is it?
"relevant for HN"
You haven't noticed that the tech oriented people who populate this community also have a strong sense of social justice and care about civil liberties? Really?
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#33Why are guns even used on dogs? Shouldn't there be a way to sedate aggressive dogs? I just don't understand. Getting shot by a gun as a human or dog is almost always going to be fatal.
Animal control has ways to sedate aggressive dogs; police have guns. Every police officer I have talked to has been trained to shoot a loose dog that is acting aggressive towards them.
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#34So many questions! Why would they think it was alright to cuff the videographer? Why wouldn't they expect a dog to attempt to protect his owner? If they had successfully cuffed the gentleman and taken him away in the squad car, would they have left the dog in a hot car (a crime here in Pennsylvania)? Why weren't the other people taking videos also arrested? I hope some of these police officers lose their jobs, but ap…
Yes, that is sad and it makes me angry too but it's hardly relevant for HN, is it?
Its laws about the use of technology, notably cell phone's with video cameras. Totally relevant to news for hackers.
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#35This story/video needs a warning. Warning: there is a graphic disgusting killing of an animal in the video.
From TFA:
At 3:23, a cop shoots the dog four times. The dog wither and dies.
What did you expect?
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
OP probably had HN and reddit open in separate tabs, just got mixed up.
What! How is this not related to HN? A lot of people here are from CA and would want to be aware of these incidents. HN guidelines clearly state that if it interests people then it is alright. And since it is clearly on top of the page, it interests a lot of people.
What to Submit -- Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cute animal pictures. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.
I disagree with you, because this is possibly a crime, non labeled graphic content, should be covered on the TV news, etc. Therefor I think it is probably off-topic. HN is not a general cali news source in my personal opinion.
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#37Why are guns even used on dogs? Shouldn't there be a way to sedate aggressive dogs? I just don't understand. Getting shot by a gun as a human or dog is almost always going to be fatal.
Sedation is not realistic, usually only animal control officers have them and even then they usually don't have it with them. BUT... Every officer near where I live carries a nightclub/billy stick/baton etc. I've been in situation with aggressive dogs out in the country and often a simple kick is enough to back them off... Discharging a firearm at a fast moving animal is reckless and begging for a bystander to be inj…
They kicked the dog before shooting it.
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#38It's a sad situation, and the officer never should have fired his sidearm at the dog, but to be fair to them, they didn't just shoot the dog with no provocation - the dog lunges 2 or 3 times at the officers with clear aggressive intent before it's shot. There are a million different things these officers could have done a lot better in this situation, like not arresting the videographer in the first place, or using pepper spray or some other nonlethal means to subdue the animal, but it wasn't like the officer walked up to the dog and shot it execution-style.
The dog's last lunge toward the officer who killed it was very fast and aggressive, and the officer had just a split second to react. He probably just reacted on a fight-or-flight instinct, and unfortunately, in this instance, it ended with lethal force.
If I was in the same situation at that split second, I might have done the same thing. I was once chased and attacked by an aggressive dog before, and I rank it as one of the most terrifying experiences in my life. Being attacked by an animal with clear intent to harm or even kill you is just so primally scary that there's no way to think and react rationally - you just do whatever you can to get away and survive.
It's a pretty crappy situation all around, and I feel terrible for the owner of the dog. I still blame the officers for initiating the situation, but I do understand why the officer reacted the way he did.
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#39I was expecting a bad video, but not THAT bad... I mean, I expected they to shoot the dog and the dog drop dead, seeing the dog doing... whatever it did... when it got shot was hard on the stomach. :( Even worse, the owner of the dog DID put it in the car, I believe so he could confront the cops without the dog threatning them... But it did not worked :(
I am a dog lover through and through. But it is very tough to see what the police could have done differently, except maybe taser him/her instead. That dog looks like he was 70+ lbs, and he was lunging at the officer, in my view. It's very, very sad to have seen this -- I wish the window had been rolled up. That said, yes the police did instigate this in the larger sense by (I guess?) arresting him for taping the inc…
The police could have not arrested him for committing no crime. I'm pretty sure that option was on the table.
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#40Qualifications to be a police officer:
A.) Be pretty good at football, but not enough to go pro or college.
Edit: to the comment below, my old next door neighbor's 'star football player' but C- son got fired as a prison guard after beating the pulp out of an inmate who 'insulted his mama' just 6 months after graduating HS - the stereotype is true, especially so in the southeastern USA. This is just one of many examples.