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Unbelievably sad. If anyone ever doubted whether memes (in the original Dawkins sense) are real, this is a good demonstration. Lately, police have just taken to shooting dogs willy-nilly. http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/incoming-police-ch...

This crap happens all the time. Really disgusting abuse of power.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2012-11-20/pet-owner-...

The penalty: one day without pay.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2013-04-04/officer-wh...

I used to take my son to that park. I've seen loose pit bulls out there before and I've been able to handle the situation without panicking like Barney Fife.

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Fucking disgusting. More information: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/07/01/viral-video-appear... Apparently happened in Hawthorne, CA.

2:19 [0] in the second video is also disgusting [0]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffwxaTpJTyI&t=139

Are you familiar with working dogs? I have had a rottweiler and a GSD and my vet (faculty at Cornell Vet School) and my dog trainer recommended using a pinch collar and doing corrections by snapping the leash.

That being said they also recommended against the long flexilead (i think thats the brand) leash and/or having the window down far enough that the dog could jump out. My dogs never would have walked in front of me on a leash like that.

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#44

Unless you have a real emergency and need assistance, it's best to avoid the police whenever possible, even if you've done nothing wrong. Local police forces have many officers that are poorly trained and believe that they have plenary power or act as if they do in any situation. Of course, this isn't true about all local police officers, but if you don't know which officers are the good ones, you should just avoid a…

I think many of us would like our police to be more like Andy Griffith. We pay their salaries and elect their bosses so I don't see why we couldn't have this kind of police force if we put in the time and effort to reform them.

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So many questions! Why would they think it was alright to cuff the videographer? Why wouldn't they expect a dog to attempt to protect his owner? If they had successfully cuffed the gentleman and taken him away in the squad car, would they have left the dog in a hot car (a crime here in Pennsylvania)? Why weren't the other people taking videos also arrested? I hope some of these police officers lose their jobs, but ap…

I wonder if race was a factor?

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This story/video needs a warning. Warning: there is a graphic disgusting killing of an animal in the video.

Sorry, but what did you expect? California Police Arrest Man for Video Recording, then Kill his Dog That seems pretty clear to me.

Those words did not prepare me for what I saw.

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I'm a bit conflicted; on the one hand I think the officers were correct to shoot the dog once it was jumping at them and was undeterred by being kicked. On the other hand killing a dog is going to get a lot more people mad at (and raise awareness of) the over-the-top reactions of officers to people videotaping cops.

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Why are guns even used on dogs? Shouldn't there be a way to sedate aggressive dogs? I just don't understand. Getting shot by a gun as a human or dog is almost always going to be fatal.

Animal control has ways to sedate aggressive dogs; police have guns. Every police officer I have talked to has been trained to shoot a loose dog that is acting aggressive towards them.

Yes but animal control needs time to select the dose of the sedative and prepare the dart (or jab stick). This isn't a video game.

Also animal control traps or nets the animal before attempting to sedate it. You can't just stick the needle anywhere.

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Are we really surprised by this? Think about your own experience in highschool and the type of people from that experience who are now in law enforcement? Any correlation between bullies and law enforcers?

Football players, but obviously, not very good ones.

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I was expecting a bad video, but not THAT bad... I mean, I expected they to shoot the dog and the dog drop dead, seeing the dog doing... whatever it did... when it got shot was hard on the stomach. :( Even worse, the owner of the dog DID put it in the car, I believe so he could confront the cops without the dog threatning them... But it did not worked :(

I am a dog lover through and through. But it is very tough to see what the police could have done differently, except maybe taser him/her instead. That dog looks like he was 70+ lbs, and he was lunging at the officer, in my view. It's very, very sad to have seen this -- I wish the window had been rolled up. That said, yes the police did instigate this in the larger sense by (I guess?) arresting him for taping the inc…

What they could have done differently is not violate the guy's civil rights in the first place. If he wasn't handcuffed, he could have easily controlled his dog.
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