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Re: This is a web page

#171

Centered text, large white borders, and larger than standard font size are all design. Minimal design, but it does feel very different if you look at it completely unstyled: http://i.imgur.com/xOWPr8E.png I feel like it subverts the message a bit that he still felt the need to style things.

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Re: This is a web page

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I don't see the connection, or the problem. Please explain.

I don't have a problem with it, but it was funny to me that when I viewed the source the first thing that I saw was some javascript.

So funny to me how people take the message so literally. Most people do not view the source of a webpage so a little script that doesn't affect the user experience is irrelevant to 99% of internet users. The message is about what you are presenting on the web...

Re: This is a web page

#173

There's something magical about personal websites. Something that a Facebook profile page or a Twitter stream or a Tumblr will never reach. I really wish more people would go back to the earlier roots of the internet, and share what's on their mind in a more personal and genuine way.

I agree completely. Learning HTML was such an empowering feeling for me. You can make something fancy or minimal, whatever you feel like. We are all unique and personal websites show that much better than a social media website ever can IMHO

Re: This is a web page

#174
After sitting on the setup of my blog for a good nine months -- trying out several static site generators, experimenting with different color schemes, reactive layouts, font sizes, font families, deployment scripts, and composing about 15 stubs for posts and not finishing a single one -- i have accomplished less than this.

Re: This is a web page

#175
post #98

Slightly off topic, but if we're talking about simplicity... why are people still using this doctype: " rel="nofollow">http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"> instead of the beautifully simple HTML5 doctype: I get that people might use the old doctype out of habit, but it's such an ugly, unnecessary habit, and it would probably be smart to work on discarding it. At the very least, we should be making sure that new dev…

Dang it! You're right. Bad habit. :(

I've just updated it. Thanks!

Re: This is a web page

#176

"At it's heart, web design should be about words." No. The web is not just a place for text / words, that is not its heart and soul, and therefore neither is that the case for web design. It really never has been. I see no great argument in favor of words being the core over any other form of expression. Today's bandwidth more than allows for beautiful video, animation, high quality graphics and photos, etc. Or low k…

And yet you chose to present your ideas using words. At the heart of the Web is the communication between humans. At the heart of that communication are words.

You can argue that we can communicate using images, but that communication is limited when compared to words.

You can argue that we can communicate using sounds, but unless those sounds are words, the communication is limited in the same way as when using pure images.

You can argue that the Web is not only about communication between humans (e.g. we can do shopping online), but the communication is indispensable for all those other services.

You can argue that the Web is not only about communication between humans, but all that machine-to-machine communication is ultimately there to connect humans.

Web design is there to help you achieve whatever you're trying to do on the Web in a way that's more appealing and easier to interact with. I think that Justin's assertion is that words are at the heart of whatever you're trying to do on the Web. And I think he's dead on.

Re: This is a web page

#177

First time [1] my in-laws saw "the web" they were trying to find information about vacation spots in Brazil but their travel guide was obsolete, I found a web page a student had written up about where the best places to stay and see were in Brazil. I could almost see the dots connect when they realized that someone they didn't know, in Brazil , had written up a piece of information at some point that they were now se…

Just being cynical here, but books written by people from far away places have circulated for a lot longer than the internet has been around.

Re: This is a web page

#179

Centered text, large white borders, and larger than standard font size are all design. Minimal design, but it does feel very different if you look at it completely unstyled: http://i.imgur.com/xOWPr8E.png I feel like it subverts the message a bit that he still felt the need to style things.

This is the full stylesheet:

  
  body { font-size:18px; }
  .wrapper { max-width: 600px; margin:0 auto; }
  
I feel like you're being a little unfair here.

Re: This is a web page

#180
While I agree that the substance of a web page is the most important part of it, there's a whole lot of visual work that aids marketing, retention, and conversion, and while those things are often not appreciated by those of us who enjoy plain text, they are significant and have real benefits.

The problem with all of the "You're reading this" and "You're still reading this" is that the only reason anyone read it is because of the author's networking, and in our case the fact that it was promoted up HN. That says nothing about the content of the page or its power. It'd be just as true and just as irrelevant if the author were the only one who ever read it.

Yes, I agree with some of what's presented. But I also think it's a very narrow and outdated way of looking at the web, and it marginalizes disciplines that, for better or worse, have effectively changed the way that most people experience and internalize the experience of browsing.

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