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Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by superkamiguru »

amalcon wrote: post #114
mikelat wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This page says it's disabled by software - not by hardware. So it really depends on how much you trust the software and the people making it. The software is closed source and the people making it also happened to be the first ones to sign onto PRISM.

The aftermarket part to disable the Kinect without breaking warranty is not very expensive: http://www.amazon.com/Post--3-Inches-Canary-Yellow-12-Pads/d... Though there are a number of reasons I don't like the Xbox One, the Kinect isn't one of them.

There is still the mic part. Should we use bubblewrap instead?

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by mynameisvlad »

chc wrote: post #112
mynameisvlad wrote: post #86

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Yes it was. The console would only need to connect once every 24 hours. The rest of the time, it wouldn't give two shits about if it was connected or not.

I guess we have different definitions of "completely offline," with mine requiring that you not be online at all.

... What?

While playing your game, you could have been completely offline without a disk. The 24-hour requirement is completely separate.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by mikeash »

baddox wrote: post #110
brigade wrote: post #109

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It's almost like iFixit doesn't exist.

It's still trust though. We trust that iFixit or some other third party would discover and publicize the secret camera. A few of us might even do it ourselves, but most of us would just trust that someone else would.

Those are all extremely different levels of trust. It's useless to treat them as equivalent.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by rjd »

scott_s wrote: post #116
katbyte wrote: post #98

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My computer doesn't have a webcam or mic plugged in all the time pointed at my living room.

My computer has a webcam and microphone pointed at me whenever I'm using it. Same for many, many people.

And unsurprisingly there are many accounts of this being abused already, heres a few high profile examples: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_... , http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/rat-breeders-meet...

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by georgemcbay »

ebbv wrote: post #36

This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…

Add:

- Indie self-publishing (PS4 allows, Xbox One doesn't, this is a big deal for me personally).

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by brigade »

gfodor wrote: post #60
rmrfrmrf wrote: post #28

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1) Microsoft doesn't set the price of games. What would have happened would be developers setting slightly higher prices than XBOX360, citing inflation and 'increased costs of development for more sophisticated systems' as reasons why the games are still more expensive. In other words, they'd be saying, "If it weren't digital only, it would be $89.99 instead of $59.99, so count your blessings!" Consumers are so well-…

1) I don't buy that somehow gaming is a price fixing scheme. SNES games were $80 and that was 20 years ago. Market forces affect prices, and the used game market is a large market force. 2) "Re-authenticate every 24 hours" does not imply decent, always-on Internet. Most of the U.S. can re-authenticate every 24 hours. And those who are in the small minority that cannot should not prevent everyone else from the benefit…

1) Well, the whole "games are cheaper as a digital download" sure isn't true while physical copies are being sold in stores, thanks to agreements to not undercut retailers' prices. Only when a game is old enough that physical copies aren't being sold anymore does become true. As true as an incomparable equality can be, that is.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by rocky1138 »

sivam wrote: post #69
ebbv wrote: post #36

This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…

How is the Kinect different from every smartphone, tablet with microphones and cameras that we all always carry around even to bathrooms, bedrooms and confidential meetings? > $100 more expensive than PS4. You get the easy to use Kinect voice control and things like fitness games that can help you be in your target heart rate zone.

It's Microsoft.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by nsmartt »

alyx wrote: post #73
ebbv wrote: post #36

This takes care of the used games issue but it doesn't take care of: - $100 more expensive than PS4. - Kinect always included, always connected and always on. Cannot be removed, disabled or turned off. - Netflix behind Xbox Live Gold paywall, available for free on PS4. Plus other numerous functionality complaints such as it's supposed to be the way you watch TV but it isn't a DVR, you still need a separate DVR. And i…

Stop spreading privacy FUD. Kinect can be controlled and disabled. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

This is not a question of whether the behavior can be disabled. It's enabled by default. The default is what counts in every situation like this.

Re: Your Feedback Matters – Update on Xbox One

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Post by comex »

polshaw wrote: post #113
alyx wrote: post #73

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Stop spreading privacy FUD. Kinect can be controlled and disabled. http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/privacy

Software disabling is little use when the issue only exists because of a lack of trust in the software (ie NSA co-operation).

> ie NSA co-operation

This is so ridiculous it's not worth talking about. The chances of snooping due to the console being hacked are slightly higher, but where are all the people complaining that most laptops, tablets, and phones (which generally have significantly less software security) have built-in software controlled cameras and microphones? Laptops usually have indicator lights for cameras, but not microphones, and the other two have no indicators and follow you wherever you go.

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