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iOS 7 looks familiar

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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by css771 »

nikster wrote: post #171
mrich wrote: post #168

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Samsung meanwhile is already hard at work copying all those features, expect them to pop up in Android within the next 6 months. Parallax background will be first. It is quite ironic you would say that, since parallax backgrounds were available for all Android devices in app form before Apple demoed them. One example: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=opotech.image3... But the cynic in me will not be surp…

Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in Cydia as well. But that's not the point. The point is Samsung will copy it. Just wait, I am pretty confident here ;) I mean they could just buy that existing app but something tells me that they won't... past behavior and all that... Frankly I don't think Apple…

And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing - they do their own thing. And with the next Touchwiz, they will revolutionize Touchwiz UX. That's a fact /s

But seriously, the amount of snark (and hypocrisy imo) in your comment was too much to take.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

#192

Post by paul_f »

aet wrote: post #151
cbrauchli wrote: post #126

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I have an iPhone 5 with 8GB free space and am experiencing lag and low frame rates quite a bit.

I generally wait for the new hardware. Never have had a good "iOS upgrade" experience.

Which is funny after seeing Apple bash fragmentation at the WWDC. Apple has their own version of fragmentation, newer OS versions don't work on older devices.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by sjwright »

paul_f wrote: post #192
aet wrote: post #151

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I generally wait for the new hardware. Never have had a good "iOS upgrade" experience.

Which is funny after seeing Apple bash fragmentation at the WWDC. Apple has their own version of fragmentation, newer OS versions don't work on older devices.

I, and everyone I know has had a flawless upgrade experience. There have been a couple of exceptions -- the iPhone 3G (not 3GS) suffered with some point releases, but it was a horrifically underpowered device anyway.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by sjwright »

sbuk wrote: post #169
jaequery wrote: post #96

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omg, the new designs look hideous! steve jobs would never have approved these ... looks like apple is now following the footsteps of microsoft, so sad.

Steve Jobs approved Corinthian Leather and green baize. Your argument is proven moot.

Chalk me up then as the only other person who likes the corinthian leather and green baize. Sure it was totally random and a bit ridiculous, but at least you never got confused whether you were in Maps or Find Friends.

In the past I managed a few remote Windows Servers, and to keep from confusing them, I gave each a unique desktop background colour (a pleasant pastel shade) for no reason other than to keep them visually distinct.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by sjwright »

tolmasky wrote: post #44
shurcooL wrote: post #31

I don't understand this obsession with complaining about copying or imitating in design. As long as good things are taken and worse things are left behind, the consumers benefit. It's like being upset that the 2014 cars have the same steering wheel and pedal layout, or that a manufacturer "stole" the idea of using a USB port in a car.

I can't speak for other people, but I can perhaps share some insight from my feelings. Just to get it out of the way, it is a bit annoying to see a company that is normally absolutely obsessed with others copying them now doing the same. But as eyebrow raising as that is, its not really my main concern. My personal issue with this design is that it signals the coming of a boring lull in mobile design. Its the death o…

I don't think it's a lull, I prefer to think of it as a spring cleaning. iOS 6 is great, but it has reached a visual saturation point, making it difficult to add more ideas.

Sometimes you need to step back in order to advance further. The Pentium 4 is a case in point.

I'm sure there will be ongoing refinement to the visual language, and will feel finished by the time iOS 7 ships. Then iOS 8 and 9 will be able to progressively layer new ideas into the new literal and metaphorical white space.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by sbuk »

sjwright wrote: post #194
sbuk wrote: post #169

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Steve Jobs approved Corinthian Leather and green baize. Your argument is proven moot.

Chalk me up then as the only other person who likes the corinthian leather and green baize. Sure it was totally random and a bit ridiculous, but at least you never got confused whether you were in Maps or Find Friends. In the past I managed a few remote Windows Servers, and to keep from confusing them, I gave each a unique desktop background colour (a pleasant pastel shade) for no reason other than to keep them visua…

Taste is a different argument to your point (distinction). None the less, it is an extremely valid one. The point I'm making is that Jobs allowed some globally 'interesting' design decisions through, the 'skeuomorphic' textures being a example.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by [deleted] »

css771 wrote: post #191
nikster wrote: post #171

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Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in Cydia as well. But that's not the point. The point is Samsung will copy it. Just wait, I am pretty confident here ;) I mean they could just buy that existing app but something tells me that they won't... past behavior and all that... Frankly I don't think Apple…

And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing - they do their own thing. And with the next Touchwiz, they will revolutionize Touchwiz UX. That's a fact /s But seriously, the amount of snark (and hypocrisy imo) in your comment was too much to take.

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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by berntb »

css771 wrote: post #191
nikster wrote: post #171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in Cydia as well. But that's not the point. The point is Samsung will copy it. Just wait, I am pretty confident here ;) I mean they could just buy that existing app but something tells me that they won't... past behavior and all that... Frankly I don't think Apple…

And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing - they do their own thing. And with the next Touchwiz, they will revolutionize Touchwiz UX. That's a fact /s But seriously, the amount of snark (and hypocrisy imo) in your comment was too much to take.

>>And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing

Uhh... the whole idea with the present generation of smartphone (software) comes from the iPhone. That (and applying it to create pads people were willing to pay for) was new.

Everyone should be able to agree on that, at least.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by James_Duval »

nilliams wrote: post #83
thezilch wrote: post #75

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These arguments always strike me as coming from people who only spend time with Apple's designs. The folks who think that only Apple designers are leaps and bounds better, are the only thoughtful producers, and are the sole visionaries beyond just the UI. Let's face it; look to the Samsung vs. Apple case to see how it is the laymen making billion dollar calls. Not designers. It's not designers that Apple has a majori…

>> The folks who think that only Apple designers are leaps and bounds better Parent doesn't say that at all, or make any comparisons.

S/he's illustrating how meaningless it is to say "this is the kind of argument made by people like x", and how easily such an 'argument' can be turned on its head.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by dragos2 »

nikster wrote: post #171
mrich wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung meanwhile is already hard at work copying all those features, expect them to pop up in Android within the next 6 months. Parallax background will be first. It is quite ironic you would say that, since parallax backgrounds were available for all Android devices in app form before Apple demoed them. One example: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=opotech.image3... But the cynic in me will not be surp…

Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in Cydia as well. But that's not the point. The point is Samsung will copy it. Just wait, I am pretty confident here ;) I mean they could just buy that existing app but something tells me that they won't... past behavior and all that... Frankly I don't think Apple…

You really don't get it. You cannot say Samsung will copy something from Apple, when Samsung already has that.

It's OK to be a fanboy, but at least try to understand what's going on.

Also, they might have revolutionized iOS but they didn't revolutionized mobile OS in general.

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