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iOS 7 looks familiar

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Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by nikster »

mrich wrote: post #168
nikster wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been playing with iOS 7 on my iPhone 5 for a day now as well. It's utterly fantastic. What is surprising is how much all the apps have changed - all the functionality was seemingly ripped apart and put back together. It's definitely rough. This is a beta, not a Google "let's call it beta even though it's actually finished". A real beta. With plenty of bugs; occasional crashes. Lots of graphics glitches esp. when…

Samsung meanwhile is already hard at work copying all those features, expect them to pop up in Android within the next 6 months. Parallax background will be first. It is quite ironic you would say that, since parallax backgrounds were available for all Android devices in app form before Apple demoed them. One example: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=opotech.image3... But the cynic in me will not be surp…

Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in Cydia as well.

But that's not the point. The point is Samsung will copy it. Just wait, I am pretty confident here ;) I mean they could just buy that existing app but something tells me that they won't... past behavior and all that...

Frankly I don't think Apple is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Android is doing - they do their own thing. And with iOS 7, they have revolutionized iOS. That's a fact.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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jmduke wrote: post #145
nikster wrote: post #143

iOS7 after day 1. This Steve Jobs quote comes to mind: "Design is not how something looks; design is how it works" Everything about iOS, and all the included apps, has been taken apart, and put back together. Everything has been questioned. This is amazing because I think it's the basis that will take Apple and/or iOS to a whole new level. iOS 7 is not an evolution - it's a revolution.

iOS 7 is not an evolution - it's a revolution What the hell does that even mean? We can wax poetic about design and UX or we can accept that what they did was change the way something looks and feels, which is ultimately not the same thing as changing what something does. I'm not underplaying the importance of design, but I think calling something that ultimately does not affect the capabilities of the device a 'revo…

Repeat as you maybe missed it the first time around: "Design is not how something looks; design is how it works"

iOS 7 doesn't change the looks. It changes how everything works. All the built in apps have been changed completely. The entire OS layer has been changed completely.

A revolution is not poetic - it means a significant change where all the old paradigms are thrown out and replaced with new ones.

I was up until 1:00 am yesterday night finding more and more features and changes, and I am still finding more changes. I know it's not technically but it certainly feels like iOS has been re-written from scratch.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by nikster »

jawngee wrote: post #165
Geee wrote: post #85

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No, this isn't true this time. I have been using iOS 7 on iPhone 5 for a day now, and I have mixed feelings. I have always trusted Apple to 'get it right' and be delighted with thought-out details and just no-frills great UX. I know it's Beta, but it honestly looks and feels like Android with a bit of lag here and there, some stuttering animations, confusing unlock and answer call screens, too thin fonts for my taste…

It's fascinating how completely different people's experiences with the same thing can be. I've been using it on my phone and I love it. I always had to jailbreak my phone, but I don't feel like I need to with iOS 7. Though I wish they'd add Quick Reply and then I'd be set. But, so far, for me, it's been very fluid and smooth. Drains battery like crazy though. I went to bed 100%, woke up at 3% six hours later.

I am excited by iOS 7. It's like discovering a whole new OS.

I am actually thinking it's kind of shocking to do something as radical as that. Is my mom going to get it? She's barely gotten used to the old iOS.

And for the jailbreak sentiment: iOS 7 finally has the ability to block calls and messages. So now I don't need a JB anymore.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by kelnos »

nikster wrote: post #171
mrich wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung meanwhile is already hard at work copying all those features, expect them to pop up in Android within the next 6 months. Parallax background will be first. It is quite ironic you would say that, since parallax backgrounds were available for all Android devices in app form before Apple demoed them. One example: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=opotech.image3... But the cynic in me will not be surp…

Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in Cydia as well. But that's not the point. The point is Samsung will copy it. Just wait, I am pretty confident here ;) I mean they could just buy that existing app but something tells me that they won't... past behavior and all that... Frankly I don't think Apple…

Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android.

You should apologize, though clearly you're being sarcastic. If you're going to claim that Samsung is copying what Apple has done, you'd better know what Samsung, stock Android, and probably at least a couple other flavors, have already done.

The point is Samsung will copy it.

Copy what, exactly? The look and feel of iOS 7 (at least from a few initial screenshots; I haven't tried it myself yet) looks how Android has looked for over a year and a half now.

Certainly the UX of iOS 7 is (presumably) still distinct from Android, but that doesn't seem to be what you're talking about.

They don't care what Android is doing - they do their own thing.

You clearly -- by your own admission -- aren't qualified to make this statement. Multitasking on iOS is a watered-down, shittier version of multitasking on Android. Notifications on iOS were basically ripped from Android. You may claim that Apple never saw what Android was doing and happened to come up with similar solutions, but that seems a bit naive to me.

That's a fact.

No, it's your opinion.

Re: iOS 7 looks familiar

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Post by annnnd »

spaux wrote: post #147
nikster wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been playing with iOS 7 on my iPhone 5 for a day now as well. It's utterly fantastic. What is surprising is how much all the apps have changed - all the functionality was seemingly ripped apart and put back together. It's definitely rough. This is a beta, not a Google "let's call it beta even though it's actually finished". A real beta. With plenty of bugs; occasional crashes. Lots of graphics glitches esp. when…

I disagree. This seems to me like something that wouldn't have happened under the supervision of Jobs. I feel like the redesign of their UI hasn't gone far enough, that there attempt to copy other trends is different than what apple has done before. I believe that with this update, apple has put the final nail in the coffin to remove the stigma of "it's apple, so it's better."

Exactly. Also, as they are becoming more similar to Android, it won't take much for users to actually switch to it. I am sure Google is happy to see this development.
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