Earlier quoted context omitted.
What debate is "surrounding rape" exactly? Are you referring to a debate as to whether rape is ethically permissible or not? If so, where do you hang out?
You're a perfect example for his point.
Hacker Who Helped Expose Steubenville Could Get More Prison Time Than Rapists
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#72The original Mother Jones story is here: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/06/kyanonymous-fbi-... At first, he thought the FBI agent at the door was with FedEx. "As I open the door to greet the driver, approximately 12 FBI SWAT team agents jumped out of the truck, screaming for me to 'Get the fuck down!' with M-16 assault rifles and full riot gear, armed, safety off, pointed directly at my head," Lostutter wro…
I can understand this approach to a drug baron or armed fugitive, but to a hacker? Really 'merica? Way to go killing that fly with a sledge hammer!
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
"was assaulted by" was raped by FTFY. Let's not mince words here. This was not merely assault (which can describe something as mild as a punch or a shove). This was rape, committed by multiple parties, followed by degradation on camera for others to see. And, the girl was so drunk/drugged that she probably should have been seen by a doctor...instead the people around her took it as an opportunity to prey upon her.
When I was in college 20 years ago in Boulder the local feminists would get upset when people didn't say "assualt", or if they modified it with "sexual". I always maintained that assault wasn't as bad as rape or "sexual assault", but they wanted nothing of it.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
I didn't omit the word as part of some pro-rape agenda I'm not sure it's worth your time to contend this. The debate surrounding rape is very if-you-arent-with-us-youre-against-us, so too often it seems it's already a lost battle.
What debate is "surrounding rape" exactly? Are you referring to a debate as to whether rape is ethically permissible or not? If so, where do you hang out?
- The concept of "rape culture"
- Questions like, "what should be done about the devastating affects on the life of someone accused (but acquitted) of rape?"
- Taking into consideration the impact on the accused, questions like "should women who make blatantly false or frivolous claims of rape be held liable?"
I don't claim to know the answers to any of these bullet points, but the fact of the matter is they are hotly contested even today- thus, debated.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
What debate is "surrounding rape" exactly? Are you referring to a debate as to whether rape is ethically permissible or not? If so, where do you hang out?
A few things that come to mind: - The concept of "rape culture" - Questions like, "what should be done about the devastating affects on the life of someone accused (but acquitted) of rape?" - Taking into consideration the impact on the accused, questions like "should women who make blatantly false or frivolous claims of rape be held liable?" I don't claim to know the answers to any of these bullet points, but the fac…
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
A few things that come to mind: - The concept of "rape culture" - Questions like, "what should be done about the devastating affects on the life of someone accused (but acquitted) of rape?" - Taking into consideration the impact on the accused, questions like "should women who make blatantly false or frivolous claims of rape be held liable?" I don't claim to know the answers to any of these bullet points, but the fac…
I was being facetious, trying to get the parent poster to elaborate. I'm quite familiar with the discourse on rape and rape culture.
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was being facetious, trying to get the parent poster to elaborate. I'm quite familiar with the discourse on rape and rape culture.
I am the parent poster.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
A more ethical group of prosecutors than we have (recruited, perhaps, among the sea pirates, slave traders, and drug kingpins of the world?), wouldn't make speculative statements about sentencing at all , much less to the media.
Because obviously allowing the media to make speculative statements with are completely unfounded is much better than at least tempering with fact. OK.