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Hacker Who Helped Expose Steubenville Could Get More Prison Time Than Rapists

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Re: Hacker Who Helped Expose Steubenville Could Get More Prison Time Than Rapists

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Post by Ygg2 »

imdsm wrote: post #7
forgotAgain wrote: post #6

The original Mother Jones story is here: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/06/kyanonymous-fbi-... At first, he thought the FBI agent at the door was with FedEx. "As I open the door to greet the driver, approximately 12 FBI SWAT team agents jumped out of the truck, screaming for me to 'Get the fuck down!' with M-16 assault rifles and full riot gear, armed, safety off, pointed directly at my head," Lostutter wro…

I can understand this approach to a drug baron or armed fugitive, but to a hacker? Really 'merica? Way to go killing that fly with a sledge hammer!

I'd say its more like Air to surface fusion missile. I guess information is power and anyone with modicum of information is more dangerous. Weird times.

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Post by SwellJoe »

mratzloff wrote: post #3

Here's a summary: A girl in a high school football-obsessed small town went to a party and was assaulted by football players who later bragged about it on Twitter. A blogger saw the posts (later deleted) and took screenshots. She tried to get justice for the victim by re-posting these on her blog. For this she was hounded relentlessly in the town and a defamation suit was brought against her. The players bragged that…

"was assaulted by"

was raped by

FTFY. Let's not mince words here. This was not merely assault (which can describe something as mild as a punch or a shove). This was rape, committed by multiple parties, followed by degradation on camera for others to see. And, the girl was so drunk/drugged that she probably should have been seen by a doctor...instead the people around her took it as an opportunity to prey upon her.

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Post by sillysaurus »

codezero wrote: post #9

I imagine that he faces charges, not specifically for crimes committed to out the rapists, but possibly for a number of other illegal activities related to hacking. That one of his deeds ended up resulting in outing bad people, does not mean that he is always so conscious or on the side of good.

Unless more information comes to light, you're just slandering the guy. The assumption at this point is that he was arrested at multiple M16 assault rifle gunpoints because of his involvement in hacking into Jim Parks's fansite. http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/01/inside-anony...;

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Post by VladRussian2 »

tibbon wrote: post #5
Jabbles wrote: post #2

An informative read if you're curious about US sentencing: http://www.popehat.com/2013/02/05/crime-whale-sushi-sentence... ; excerpt: "People reporting on federal criminal justice — whether journalists or bloggers — routinely report on the statutory maximum sentence that a defendant could hypothetically get, an oft-ridiculous figure calculated by taking all the charged crimes and adding up the maximum punishment for…

Seems to be a strange thing though in our justice system- that seemingly more minor crimes have greater maximum sentences (and sometimes mandatory minimums) than more violent/harmful crimes. I know it isn't just something we can 'fix' easily, but it does seem to be a bug in the system essentially.

there are crimes against the System and crimes against another person(s). Through the history of the human race the former were punished harder than the latter. Jesus for example.

There is a joke in Russia about a person buying a fake money printing device. After discovering that the device itself is a fake (it was loaded with a bit of real money for demo purposes during sale), the buyer reports the fraud to the authorities. As result the seller gets relatively small time for the fraud he committed against the buyer and the buyer gets much bigger time because he tried to commit fraud (ie. intended to print fake money) against the government.

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Post by mpyne »

mjn wrote: post #10
Jabbles wrote: post #2

An informative read if you're curious about US sentencing: http://www.popehat.com/2013/02/05/crime-whale-sushi-sentence... ; excerpt: "People reporting on federal criminal justice — whether journalists or bloggers — routinely report on the statutory maximum sentence that a defendant could hypothetically get, an oft-ridiculous figure calculated by taking all the charged crimes and adding up the maximum punishment for…

It's not just "journalists or bloggers" who do that; the government will often quote the maximum possible when discussing the case as well, in order to intimidate the defendant into a plea bargain.

The government at least mentions that it's a maximum sentence. There's no other specific number they can quote anyways, it's not like they know what the judge and jury might approve that far ahead of time.

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

mjn wrote: post #10
Jabbles wrote: post #2

An informative read if you're curious about US sentencing: http://www.popehat.com/2013/02/05/crime-whale-sushi-sentence... ; excerpt: "People reporting on federal criminal justice — whether journalists or bloggers — routinely report on the statutory maximum sentence that a defendant could hypothetically get, an oft-ridiculous figure calculated by taking all the charged crimes and adding up the maximum punishment for…

It's not just "journalists or bloggers" who do that; the government will often quote the maximum possible when discussing the case as well, in order to intimidate the defendant into a plea bargain.

Yep, which is why it's appropriate to quote the same figures when criticizing the bad behavior of the prosecution.

Even if they won't get the maximum, the number is still significant, because it serves as the anchor for extorting a plea bargain, as well as sentencing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring

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