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Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by wyck »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #28
krenoten wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First of all, there have been several NSA whistleblowers that have spoken on this issue. William Binney even gave the CCC a copy of some code that was a similar model to what his team initially designed for the NSA. Second, his current job at a contractor is relatively new, but before joining Booz Allen he worked directly under an intelligence agency.

Where is it recorded that he worked directly under an intelligence agency? (Honest question; i've not found that.)

He worked for the CIA on IT security since approximatly 2004-2005.

In 2007 he was stationed in Switzerland (CIA), he left the CIA in 2009.

In 2009 he started to work for a private contractor in the U.S and Japan which had him stationed at a NSA facility.

I don't get all the media reports that he only been on the inside for 3 months. This adds up to 7+ years.

It all on his wiki page with footnotes to sources.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by jlgreco »

JonFish85 wrote: post #36
jlgreco wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, he was apparently a system administrator of some sort so perhaps he had ways of getting data out of their system that other employees would not have had available to them.

If he was a systems admin, there were undoubtedly other system admins around to keep an eye on each other. If he got data out, he likely walked out with it physically in some way, or there was a severe breakdown in the network security.

> If he was a systems admin, there were undoubtedly other system admins around to keep an eye on each other.

Of course. The question is are sys-admins as effective at watching other sys-admins as they are at watching regular users? It seems reasonable that they are not, if only because sys-admins are more skilled than other users. Sys-admins likely also implicitly trust other sys-admins more than other users, not intentionally of course, but enough to bias their ability to see things.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by quantumpotato_ »

bane wrote: post #38

Stuck in Hong Kong? Short on money? On the run from the Triads or the Man? Come stay at the (formerly) fabulous Chung King Mansions! The only hotel you can live in 24/7, get a job and raise a family in. In balmy Kowloon! Rooms start at $30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XiRF1OOuw8&list=PL12CEAFFE67...

Have you stayed there?

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by bane »

quantumpotato_ wrote: post #43
bane wrote: post #38

Stuck in Hong Kong? Short on money? On the run from the Triads or the Man? Come stay at the (formerly) fabulous Chung King Mansions! The only hotel you can live in 24/7, get a job and raise a family in. In balmy Kowloon! Rooms start at $30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XiRF1OOuw8&list=PL12CEAFFE67...

Have you stayed there?

No, but I've heard stories.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by zwtaylor »

bgentry wrote: post #3

Sounds like it's not so much "he's missing" as "he checked out of his hotel".

Thus far it seems like Mr. Snowden has taken the utmost precaution in maintaining OPSEC while releasing these documents. I wouldn't be surprised if he was long gone from Hong Kong days ago or never there to begin with.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by wilfra »

bane wrote: post #38

Stuck in Hong Kong? Short on money? On the run from the Triads or the Man? Come stay at the (formerly) fabulous Chung King Mansions! The only hotel you can live in 24/7, get a job and raise a family in. In balmy Kowloon! Rooms start at $30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XiRF1OOuw8&list=PL12CEAFFE67...

Don't even have to leave the building to buy hashish.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by TillE »

anujabro wrote: post #11

What if he is not actually in Hong Kong? Just a ploy

I'm certain that the US government is able to easily track someone traveling on their own legitimate passport. So that kind of ruse makes no sense.

It's sort of a shame he didn't travel to the EU, as I suspect he'd get better support from most countries and would be able to travel in the EU without a passport.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by smky80 »

quantumpotato_ wrote: post #43
bane wrote: post #38

Stuck in Hong Kong? Short on money? On the run from the Triads or the Man? Come stay at the (formerly) fabulous Chung King Mansions! The only hotel you can live in 24/7, get a job and raise a family in. In balmy Kowloon! Rooms start at $30. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XiRF1OOuw8&list=PL12CEAFFE67...

Have you stayed there?

I have, as a young oblivious backpacker. I chuckled. As far as I remember, the room was basically a broom closet with just enough room for a single bed and the door to swing open. Downstairs was ... interesting. But I enjoyed my mansion :)

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by redwood »

TillE wrote: post #47
anujabro wrote: post #11

What if he is not actually in Hong Kong? Just a ploy

I'm certain that the US government is able to easily track someone traveling on their own legitimate passport. So that kind of ruse makes no sense. It's sort of a shame he didn't travel to the EU, as I suspect he'd get better support from most countries and would be able to travel in the EU without a passport.

This guy is former CIA...

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by freshyill »

zwtaylor wrote: post #45
bgentry wrote: post #3

Sounds like it's not so much "he's missing" as "he checked out of his hotel".

Thus far it seems like Mr. Snowden has taken the utmost precaution in maintaining OPSEC while releasing these documents. I wouldn't be surprised if he was long gone from Hong Kong days ago or never there to begin with.

Or, maybe he was there and didn't fully think through his choice of hiding places until it became abundantly obvious that Hong Kong was a terrible choice.
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