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Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#21

Post by daenz »

cpleppert wrote: post #15
quackerhacker wrote: post #5

So far all of his decisions have been very well calculated. I think this is apart of his reveal, to either keep the focus on the story, or maintain some type of safety and appear to have disappeared into China's intelligence agency....the real point I think is to keep the focus on the reveal.

Booz Allen said he was an employee for less than three months. That sounds really interesting, I thought he would have worked there for longer since he claims he was planning this for a long time and the reporter said he was in contact for months. If you read what the Wash Post reporter said Snowden tried to get him to release the entire slide deck. Why couldn't he put it on the internet? It is also interesting to me…

> Booz Allen said he was an employee for less than three months.

I don't really get this Snowden guy. From what I've read about him, I don't see why someone like him would be given access to the whole picture in the way he claims to have had access to. Unless someone was positioning him with the intention that he would become a whistleblower /conspiracy

I just have a hard time buying that of all the people that have worked for the NSA, of all the people who must have had access to what he did, only one would become a big whistleblower. Either somebody dropped the ball in psych profiling Snowden, or this must have been intentional, right?

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by jlgreco »

jpalomaki wrote: post #18
cpleppert wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Booz Allen said he was an employee for less than three months. That sounds really interesting, I thought he would have worked there for longer since he claims he was planning this for a long time and the reporter said he was in contact for months. If you read what the Wash Post reporter said Snowden tried to get him to release the entire slide deck. Why couldn't he put it on the internet? It is also interesting to me…

Taking classified data away from the organization in question may not be trivial. Email is probably monitored, using USB storage is probably not allowed, printers are probably monitored as well, CDR drives might not be readily available, internet access is probably quite limited and monitored.

On the other hand, he was apparently a system administrator of some sort so perhaps he had ways of getting data out of their system that other employees would not have had available to them.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#23

Post by krenoten »

daenz wrote: post #21
cpleppert wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Booz Allen said he was an employee for less than three months. That sounds really interesting, I thought he would have worked there for longer since he claims he was planning this for a long time and the reporter said he was in contact for months. If you read what the Wash Post reporter said Snowden tried to get him to release the entire slide deck. Why couldn't he put it on the internet? It is also interesting to me…

> Booz Allen said he was an employee for less than three months. I don't really get this Snowden guy. From what I've read about him, I don't see why someone like him would be given access to the whole picture in the way he claims to have had access to. Unless someone was positioning him with the intention that he would become a whistleblower /conspiracy I just have a hard time buying that of all the people that have…

First of all, there have been several NSA whistleblowers that have spoken on this issue. William Binney even gave the CCC a copy of some code that was a similar model to what his team initially designed for the NSA. Second, his current job at a contractor is relatively new, but before joining Booz Allen he worked directly under an intelligence agency.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by jjtheblunt »

quackerhacker wrote: post #5

So far all of his decisions have been very well calculated. I think this is apart of his reveal, to either keep the focus on the story, or maintain some type of safety and appear to have disappeared into China's intelligence agency....the real point I think is to keep the focus on the reveal.

"Reveal" is a verb, not noun, historically; that said, it seems many are copying many others, to cast reveal as a noun. Random observation.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by khuey »

cpleppert wrote: post #15
quackerhacker wrote: post #5

So far all of his decisions have been very well calculated. I think this is apart of his reveal, to either keep the focus on the story, or maintain some type of safety and appear to have disappeared into China's intelligence agency....the real point I think is to keep the focus on the reveal.

Booz Allen said he was an employee for less than three months. That sounds really interesting, I thought he would have worked there for longer since he claims he was planning this for a long time and the reporter said he was in contact for months. If you read what the Wash Post reporter said Snowden tried to get him to release the entire slide deck. Why couldn't he put it on the internet? It is also interesting to me…

He worked for the intelligence apparatus in various other capacities. Booz Allen just had the misfortune of being the one who hired him recently when he decided to do this.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#27

Post by joelrunyon »

sethbannon wrote: post #17

This is sensationalist use of the word "missing". The BBC doesn't know where Snowden currently is -- that's all the article says.

Especially if he "checked out" of his hotel. That suggests it's a lot more purposeful than the maid coming to his room and finding him "gone."

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by jjtheblunt »

krenoten wrote: post #23
daenz wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Booz Allen said he was an employee for less than three months. I don't really get this Snowden guy. From what I've read about him, I don't see why someone like him would be given access to the whole picture in the way he claims to have had access to. Unless someone was positioning him with the intention that he would become a whistleblower /conspiracy I just have a hard time buying that of all the people that have…

First of all, there have been several NSA whistleblowers that have spoken on this issue. William Binney even gave the CCC a copy of some code that was a similar model to what his team initially designed for the NSA. Second, his current job at a contractor is relatively new, but before joining Booz Allen he worked directly under an intelligence agency.

Where is it recorded that he worked directly under an intelligence agency? (Honest question; i've not found that.)

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by mpyne »

ihsw wrote: post #20
Steko wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that Anwar al-Awlaki was only guilty of 'speaking out against the government' is bananas.

Anwar al-Awlaki may have been a terrorist or he may not have been, however he wasn't tried in a court of law so he wasn't guilty of anything. The above statement looks very awkward but we shouldn't advocate extra-judicial killings.

On the other hand, America would have shown no regard for the citizenship of the enemy in the equivalent situation of a German-American serving in the Nazi armies.

Congress has told the President to use military force to eradicate Al Qaeda, al-Awlaki was in AQ, so even that isn't what you make it seem.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

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Post by jfoster »

joelrunyon wrote: post #27
sethbannon wrote: post #17

This is sensationalist use of the word "missing". The BBC doesn't know where Snowden currently is -- that's all the article says.

Especially if he "checked out" of his hotel. That suggests it's a lot more purposeful than the maid coming to his room and finding him "gone."

... and the reason he checked out might be that the BBC (along with other media and governments) knew where he was.
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