Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

bbc.co.uk

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–40 of 96 posts

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#31

Post by ScottBurson »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #25
quackerhacker wrote: post #5

So far all of his decisions have been very well calculated. I think this is apart of his reveal, to either keep the focus on the story, or maintain some type of safety and appear to have disappeared into China's intelligence agency....the real point I think is to keep the focus on the reveal.

"Reveal" is a verb, not noun, historically; that said, it seems many are copying many others, to cast reveal as a noun. Random observation.

It's odd, isn't it? -- Considering we have this perfectly good noun "revelation", whose connotations are, to my mind, more than apt. Oh well.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#32

Post by olefoo »

Steko wrote: post #13
lambda wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean, you can't imagine the US government executing its own citizens for speaking out against the government in a foreign country without trial? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

The idea that Anwar al-Awlaki was only guilty of 'speaking out against the government' is bananas.

Anwar-alAlaqui was a lot closer to being an Alex Jones, or Glenn Beck type of figure than being some terrorist mastermind; he was basically killed for calling for spiritual struggle against the United States Government. There's not much in the way of evidence that he was more than a loudmouth with a youtube channel. And while I wouldn't feel to broken up if Glenn Beck's RV were taken out in the parking lot of the Preakness; I would still object on principle if it were the US Government doing it, rather than one of his creditors.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#33

Post by jacalata »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #25
quackerhacker wrote: post #5

So far all of his decisions have been very well calculated. I think this is apart of his reveal, to either keep the focus on the story, or maintain some type of safety and appear to have disappeared into China's intelligence agency....the real point I think is to keep the focus on the reveal.

"Reveal" is a verb, not noun, historically; that said, it seems many are copying many others, to cast reveal as a noun. Random observation.

Commenters at http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/63056/reveal-vs-r... say it appears in the 1973 OED, possibly originally from cinema.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#34

Post by contingencies »

Appears from cursory video vs. hotel website that he was using the less expensive room types at this hotel: 'club rooms' or 'mira suites'. http://www.themirahotel.com/en/rooms/room-choices.aspx

There's some really good food around there. Seems such a shame to limit yourself to room service when you're facing jail!

(Edit: What kind of warped mind would downvote such witty and perceptive analysis? Hahaha.)

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#36

Post by JonFish85 »

jlgreco wrote: post #22
jpalomaki wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taking classified data away from the organization in question may not be trivial. Email is probably monitored, using USB storage is probably not allowed, printers are probably monitored as well, CDR drives might not be readily available, internet access is probably quite limited and monitored.

On the other hand, he was apparently a system administrator of some sort so perhaps he had ways of getting data out of their system that other employees would not have had available to them.

If he was a systems admin, there were undoubtedly other system admins around to keep an eye on each other. If he got data out, he likely walked out with it physically in some way, or there was a severe breakdown in the network security.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#37

Post by chongli »

jjtheblunt wrote: post #25
quackerhacker wrote: post #5

So far all of his decisions have been very well calculated. I think this is apart of his reveal, to either keep the focus on the story, or maintain some type of safety and appear to have disappeared into China's intelligence agency....the real point I think is to keep the focus on the reveal.

"Reveal" is a verb, not noun, historically; that said, it seems many are copying many others, to cast reveal as a noun. Random observation.

This is a pet peeve of mine as well. Another common one is when people cast "addict" as a verb and inflect it to create "addicting", seemingly unaware of the perfectly adequate "addictive".

According to the dictionary, these are all valid forms but I just find them irksome for some reason.

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#38

Post by bane »

Stuck in Hong Kong?

Short on money?

On the run from the Triads or the Man?

Come stay at the (formerly) fabulous Chung King Mansions!

The only hotel you can live in 24/7, get a job and raise a family in. In balmy Kowloon! Rooms start at $30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XiRF1OOuw8&list=PL12CEAFFE67...

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#39

Post by dllthomas »

scottshea wrote: post #7

I imagine that he will keep moving until he gets asylum or some guarantees from the Chinese government.

... or is pardoned: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snow...

Not that I am holding out a lot of hope, but the more signatures the better. It does seem like the best outcome; we need greater transparency, and whistle-blowers help with that substantially.

See also: http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/06/government_sec...

Re: Edward Snowden 'missing' in Hong Kong

#40

Post by corresation »

daenz wrote: post #21
cpleppert wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Booz Allen said he was an employee for less than three months. That sounds really interesting, I thought he would have worked there for longer since he claims he was planning this for a long time and the reporter said he was in contact for months. If you read what the Wash Post reporter said Snowden tried to get him to release the entire slide deck. Why couldn't he put it on the internet? It is also interesting to me…

> Booz Allen said he was an employee for less than three months. I don't really get this Snowden guy. From what I've read about him, I don't see why someone like him would be given access to the whole picture in the way he claims to have had access to. Unless someone was positioning him with the intention that he would become a whistleblower /conspiracy I just have a hard time buying that of all the people that have…

Another scenario is that the NSA (and friends) are just far looser with "secrets" than we would have imagined. It is incredible to me that the NSA has almost entry-level contractor employers -- who have little loyalty or long-term career aspirations within the NSA -- running the show. Simply incredible.
Post reply on HN