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Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
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Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#252I just created a chart based on this data http://jsbin.com/idifos/1
Thanks!
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#253This is meaningless if you exclude options.
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
But 230k is very different from 400k that lefthander supposedly makes.
I don't make $400k. Someone made a different account with a similar name (lefthander2) and responded with his own salary.
Ah, I am sorry then. 200-250k is what I hear mid-level people at Google make.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. Consider: those who don't read HN are probably worse engineers that earn lower salaries, on average.
Assuming you are using only "reads HN" as your a priori, all of us with below average pay should expect higher salaries. If you were to argue that those who read HN and also have high salaries are the only ones reporting however, then it would be fair to rap our knuckles with the stats 101 textbook.
Maybe HN readers get paid less because they waste coding time reading HN instead of working.
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#256Seems like the two modes are 110k and over 300k!
Maybe the first are junior programmers... but seriously, over 300k?? Is that mostly in cash or dubious valuation of incentive stock options?
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It would be great to talk to someone who has first hand experience with this I'll give it a go! A few things you should be aware of to put what you're saying in context. Firstly, the cost of living in SF is incredibly high. Slightly higher than London, if you can believe it (that's not just my opinion - I was chatting to about half a dozen engineers who had been rebased from SF to London yesterday and they all agre…
I would also add a 4th point that the lifestyle in the bay area is very different. I find it far higher in cities like London than in the Silicon Valley -- this is of course very subjective, but it closely mirrors the opinions of those who graduated with me. The closest city to London here is SF (which pales in comparison IMHO), and living there may require a very lengthy commute unless your company is actually in th…
> Of course, if you love nature, the bay area has its perks :) but be ready to spend a lot of time in a car
I going to have to contest this point. I live and work in San Francisco, and I do not even own a car. I bike to and from the startup I work for every day. Many people in SF do this.
Not counting buses, taxis, or lyft, I haven't even been in a car for about 5 months.
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#258Holy crap. I am student in the UK, recently did a internship at a fairly well known company. Got paid £16k for that year. If I were to get a full time job, it would be around ~30k a year. These figures are insane, people have told me in person this is what the figures are really like in SF but wow. I think applying for a couple of jobs in SF etc just for kicks will be one of goals when I finish uni. I know the term W…
> It would be great to talk to someone who has first hand experience with this I'll give it a go! A few things you should be aware of to put what you're saying in context. Firstly, the cost of living in SF is incredibly high. Slightly higher than London, if you can believe it (that's not just my opinion - I was chatting to about half a dozen engineers who had been rebased from SF to London yesterday and they all agre…
It's just that the way the current system works, you could have the best job offer in the world and still have a 50:50 chance of not getting a visa in the lottery.
Although I believe a bill raising the H-1B limit significantly has just passed or is close to being so, so it might get a bit easier in 2014! :-)
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#259Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. Consider: those who don't read HN are probably worse engineers that earn lower salaries, on average.
On a touch screen, so I accidentally upvoted you. Your comment perfectly embodies everything I hate about the Bay Area, and recently HN. The smugness seems very ignorant; so many people have convinced themselves that they are smarter than the rest of the world. I'm sick of the culture of Silicon Valley.
And I think many in the valley are sick of your false egalitarianism.
Some people smarter than other people. And those people, on average will get paid more.
I don't see a whole lot of rage when people talk about how it takes good people skills to get a lot of jobs. But the moment intelligence becomes a requirement, everyone suddenly thinks that's unfair, or there is no such thing as intelligence.
I don't deny that there are many factors leading to higher SV salaries, but intelligence is also a factor.
For example I came from a very ordinary middle class background. To the extent that I have more education and a higher salary than people with the same background, I attribute it to my intelligence. I don't think that makes me better than other people, even though I'm constantly told that having better social skills makes you better than other people. And I don't think that there is a level playing field either, but conditional on my background I still earn a relatively high salary.
The counterpart to the smugness you complain about is your moral smugness. And there is plenty of that on HN too.
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#260depressing, midwest software engineer here, 6 years experience 60k.
Cheer up! It could be worse, how about u$s10k/yr, 20yr experience... an american software engineer working in the south, very south, so south it's spelled as Argentina! Have a nice day!!
Thats low for argentinas standards. Web is not huge here, but you can make well over that, even for local companies as MercadoLibre.
I think it makes no sense to compare salaries on Startups to salaries on typical engineer work in argentina. 99% of the work here is third-hand, cost-effective contractor outsourcing.