depressing, midwest software engineer here, 6 years experience 60k.
Just post the typical cost of a 3 bedroom house in your area and watch the bay area folk get depressed.
Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
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#82As always, voluntary response data are worthless. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5538059 Good luck to all of you looking for higher salaries. I hope you gain the salary you desire, and more knowledge of statistics along the way.
Agreed. Consider: those who don't read HN are probably worse engineers that earn lower salaries, on average.
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I don't mean to be rude, but what data do you have to back this up? Not all engineers are in the "startup game" or have any reason to read the writings of pg. It's very conceivable to me that some engineers making $250k+ a year at a big corporation like Microsoft don't frequently browse Hacker News.
We aren't just programmers. We're a unique blend of hackers and entrepreneurs and those who stumbled on this forum by being inundated with the culture. But you could go through school and find a very well paying job without being on an intellectual, enthusiast forum like this one.
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#83As always, voluntary response data are worthless. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5538059 Good luck to all of you looking for higher salaries. I hope you gain the salary you desire, and more knowledge of statistics along the way.
Agreed. Consider: those who don't read HN are probably worse engineers that earn lower salaries, on average.
On a touch screen, so I accidentally upvoted you. Your comment perfectly embodies everything I hate about the Bay Area, and recently HN. The smugness seems very ignorant; so many people have convinced themselves that they are smarter than the rest of the world. I'm sick of the culture of Silicon Valley.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Confirmation bias 101? This is probably the most "echo chamber" friendly statement of any I've seen here. An assertion with no evidence, seemingly rooted in a self satisfying sense of superiority, based on the bizarre proposition that the only way to stay ahead in the field is by reading HN. The idea that a popularity contest might tell you stuff that's actually ahead of its time is arguably naive. It's not like we h…
It's probably true of any forum where people hang out because they're passionate about their profession.
Maybe, but then you also introduce hobbyists who don't technically do this job for a living. Add to that that the same sample of hackers here is the one cut from Jeff Atwood's post about programmers who just can't program.
We have no reason to think that just because we read a lot of hacker-centric articles we don't have people bringing down the average just like the rest of the world does.
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#87This needs cross-tabs with years of experience and/or position in the company for it to be useful to those seeking to understand their relative salary position.
I second this. I would appreciate if people with $130K+ tell more about their role.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not having to uproot the family is understandable, but if you're worried about the competitiveness of the market, know that there are a ton of jobs as well (ask anyone on HN about recruiter spam, which seems to serve as a proxy to this fact), which perhaps balances things. Six years of experience is non-trivial, I'm sure if you wanted to you could find something.
What would be your guess for the average salary in the valley of someone with 6-8 years of experience?
My suggestion is to avoid telling a potential new employer what you make now. They'd then work hard to cap you at current + 30% instead of what a comparably-skilled peer might make.
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#90It seems silly to ignore stock and bonuses. My base salary is only ~$150k, but with stock and bonuses I'll make over $260k this year (Google). Would this compare with a job that also gives a $150k salary but nothing else?
That's great. Out of curiosity, are you a software engineer (SDE), if so which level? Or an engineering manager, or something else?