As always, voluntary response data are worthless. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5538059 Good luck to all of you looking for higher salaries. I hope you gain the salary you desire, and more knowledge of statistics along the way.
Agreed. Consider: those who don't read HN are probably worse engineers that earn lower salaries, on average.
Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
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Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed. Consider: those who don't read HN are probably worse engineers that earn lower salaries, on average.
some of the best engineers i know don't read HN and they definitely make more money than me. They did read a lot of newsgroups in their twenties.
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#23As always, voluntary response data are worthless. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5538059 Good luck to all of you looking for higher salaries. I hope you gain the salary you desire, and more knowledge of statistics along the way.
Agreed. Consider: those who don't read HN are probably worse engineers that earn lower salaries, on average.
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#24Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#25As always, voluntary response data are worthless. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5538059 Good luck to all of you looking for higher salaries. I hope you gain the salary you desire, and more knowledge of statistics along the way.
I'd plaster warning signs all over the place alarming people to think through their reasoning and consider all the biases that would have taken place in the poll. (come to think of it, if the poll data incites that kind of skeptical thinking in some of its readers, that in itself might make the endeavor worthwhile)
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#26Do it on google docs, and include how much money your company has raised (0-5m, 5-15m, 15m+ is probably sufficient options) and roughly how much equity you have. In a vacuum, this number is meaningless. Comparing what someone makes at Google and what someone makes at a seed funded startup is silly.
But since most startups fail, won't the equity be worth little to nothing in the median case? Kind of like playing the lottery.
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#27As always, voluntary response data are worthless. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5538059 Good luck to all of you looking for higher salaries. I hope you gain the salary you desire, and more knowledge of statistics along the way.
Agreed. Consider: those who don't read HN are probably worse engineers that earn lower salaries, on average.
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#28It seems silly to ignore stock and bonuses. My base salary is only ~$150k, but with stock and bonuses I'll make over $260k this year (Google). Would this compare with a job that also gives a $150k salary but nothing else?
Re: Poll: Full-time software engineers in the Bay Area, what's your annual salary?
#29It seems silly to ignore stock and bonuses. My base salary is only ~$150k, but with stock and bonuses I'll make over $260k this year (Google). Would this compare with a job that also gives a $150k salary but nothing else?
The main point is that ignoring the stock and bonus portion of the compensation leaves a huge portion of the story missing. And stock at a publicly traded company, whether it's Amazon, Facebook, Google, or IBM, is quite different from equity at a start up....