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Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by paganel »

rwmj wrote: post #29
atasever wrote: post #6

Media is censoring the events. Only information channel is twitter. Right now , on the bosphorus bridge that connects asia and europe: https://twitter.com/tunaarman1/status/340667624432205825

The BBC is covering it pretty well. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22739423

Unfortunately this is not happening with the NYTimes, only a story link in the "International" section towards the bottom of its front-page. Across the Atlantic the BBC, Le Figaro or der Spiegel have made it their top story.

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by fsniper »

afsina wrote: post #65
fsniper wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conspiracy? Yeah I have an unbelievable photoshop ability.. http://25.media.tumblr.com/ec39e9f4899e57c0d20ee6777c706c6d/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/9d9be489e91384e67e0709923d80834f/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/85b02a038c893bb3aecf82a7f08c7d6b/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/839abf4bc4709268dea470b3efbd6a19/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/4b9c64f573891519df441fb2665479fe/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff7423721c396…

Police using excessive force? Perhaps. Some people are standing against pressurized water and gas shells expecting nothing will happen? Absolutely. These pictures proves nothing on your assertions "they are trying to kill us" and "civil police looting". Good luck on your protests.

Police let people reach Gezi Park and mainstream media started video. After a few minutes Gezi Park started burning. And turns out it was a gas cannister firing a building thats put there for the new building operation.

What happened then is people, the one you are accusing of looting is used all their supply water and solutions to control and the fire.

We are trying to loot and make fires and destroy.

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by ozgune »

TheSmoke wrote: post #30
enraged_camel wrote: post #5

I'm Turkish. Let me try to shed some light on what's going on. What started as a small protest to prevent the demolishing of a park to build a mall on it turned into full-blown riots after some stunning displays of brutality by the police. The commentators are saying that the Turks had lots of pent-up anger over the years and this allowed them to let it all out. The result is the largest series of riots Turkey has se…

Military in Turkey was a tool of the Kemalist regime and vice versa. Erdogan did change that. You call it gutting the military and I call it the right thing to do and to tell the truth I am happy with the result. Let's just keep the military in a place where they belong and have them out when they are needed. I don't need the military to protect the regime, I need it to protect me and my land. The incidents are nothi…

These are the biggest protests I've seen in my lifetime, and I'm 34. People are reported wounded and dead, but no one knows how many.

I called my parents in Anatolia to ask them about the protests, and they didn't know there were any. Nothing on Turkish media about the protests. Stuff like this would have appeared on TV twenty years ago, but now they are all self-censored.

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by guard-of-terra »

afsina wrote: post #34
diminish wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it s like a scene from Avatar. Turks are revolting to stop the killing of 75 year old trees, police reacts violently and protests turn against the government. Trees are leading the people..

And protesters are destroying stuff around. Fantastic.

I'm afraid you're a turkish version of this:

http://cs315425.vk.me/v315425324/23a8/YO1aa12hSp0.jpg

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by afsina »

PavlovsCat wrote: post #69
afsina wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Police using excessive force? Perhaps. Some people are standing against pressurized water and gas shells expecting nothing will happen? Absolutely. These pictures proves nothing on your assertions "they are trying to kill us" and "civil police looting". Good luck on your protests.

You not being in those streets wouldn't have the faintest idea how it feels; and meanwhile, you didn't even offer a SHRED of evidence for "protesters are destroying stuff around". You kind of make me sick, actually. [edit: I am sorry for that last bit. Such dismissal of (even emotional reactions to) police brutality (by people facing it), makes me kinda sick. I haven't been on many demonstrations, but even in Germany…

I have given a link and quotes from a newspaper. I am not a supporter of government, police or later protesters. That's it.

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by PavlovsCat »

afsina wrote: post #75
PavlovsCat wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You not being in those streets wouldn't have the faintest idea how it feels; and meanwhile, you didn't even offer a SHRED of evidence for "protesters are destroying stuff around". You kind of make me sick, actually. [edit: I am sorry for that last bit. Such dismissal of (even emotional reactions to) police brutality (by people facing it), makes me kinda sick. I haven't been on many demonstrations, but even in Germany…

I have given a link and quotes from a newspaper. I am not a supporter of government, police or later protesters. That's it.

In my books there is a (huge) difference between destruction for the sake of destruction, and making barricades.

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by afsina »

guard-of-terra wrote: post #74
afsina wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And protesters are destroying stuff around. Fantastic.

I'm afraid you're a turkish version of this: http://cs315425.vk.me/v315425324/23a8/YO1aa12hSp0.jpg

Naah. I would expect better. Maybe this: http://i.imgur.com/tCp90.gif

Coincidentally The cartoon guy in the link you sent look a lot like one of the protester (I assumed he is not police): http://www.radikal.com.tr/turkiye/izmir_yangin_yeri-1135843

look at the third picture.

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by afsina »

PavlovsCat wrote: post #69
afsina wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Police using excessive force? Perhaps. Some people are standing against pressurized water and gas shells expecting nothing will happen? Absolutely. These pictures proves nothing on your assertions "they are trying to kill us" and "civil police looting". Good luck on your protests.

You not being in those streets wouldn't have the faintest idea how it feels; and meanwhile, you didn't even offer a SHRED of evidence for "protesters are destroying stuff around". You kind of make me sick, actually. [edit: I am sorry for that last bit. Such dismissal of (even emotional reactions to) police brutality (by people facing it), makes me kinda sick. I haven't been on many demonstrations, but even in Germany…

Read the part in the news I quoted.

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by cinquemb »

eknkc wrote: post #66

The primary ISP provider has been slowing down / blocking port 80 / 443 packets going to facebook and twitter hosts. They are gradually blocking social media right now. 3G works as the cellular providers maintain their own internet structure. However they deployed signal jammers to protest locations. So.. We are basically fucked. Media outlets are still running cooking shows.

This has been going around on twitter:

Turkey dial up internet access +46850009990 or +492317299993 or +4953160941030 User:telecomix Password:telecomix

Probably won't help with filtering attempts, but should help somewhat if you go dark.

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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Post by jstrate »

My girlfriend is vacationing in Turkey and in Istanbul currently. I spoke with her last night and asked what was going on, she said a small amount of people were protesting trees being removed from a park. She said she believed it was a little more than that but nothing very extreme. It was interesting to hear her view after seeing it and then read the reddit/hn talk of government overthrow, rampant police brutality, and revolutions. I suppose it will be interesting to see what happens. And then uninteresting to see how few of these comments are relevant.
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