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Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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> which if it wasn't for him Turkey would be Christian country. I really don't understand this? How would Turkey be a christian country if it wasn't for Ataturk? The Seljuks invaded Constantinople in 1453.

After WWI Turkey was divided between Christian countries France Greece England etc.

And that if that'd continued to be the case, Turkey would be a Christian country how?

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These fires are barricading against cops. Police is trying to kill. Using unbelievable force and still you say having some garbage fires are looting? By the way I say I have seen civil cops looting and protesters preventing them. But sure main stream media is the best news source. Edit: I believe these are also protesters trying to kill wounded cops? https://twitter.com/Kadirkaymakci/status/340791432891748352/...

Conspiracy assertions like "trying to kill us" and "civil cops looting" make me no longer want to continue this thread.

Conspiracy? Yeah I have an unbelievable photoshop ability.. http://25.media.tumblr.com/ec39e9f4899e57c0d20ee6777c706c6d/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/9d9be489e91384e67e0709923d80834f/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/85b02a038c893bb3aecf82a7f08c7d6b/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/839abf4bc4709268dea470b3efbd6a19/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/4b9c64f573891519df441fb2665479fe/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff7423721c396bea87d0ad6ca86e1bca/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/b93996ce1ac8e1c065fcd006f9d2bdaf/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/34473d61e1310ecaa6b9d4104941630d/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/152f04b33dfc749d9330d06156e53037/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/629ff449dd6e268bdbd16f4ff4e0a89c/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/2dfad9145b36fe427bdb5adecc95b1da/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/7606851a4219d0695dfa1072ddb57282/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/37814ed78bbc6fedd99b16c2b00c539b/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/10a8aec55104afb106b6a28daf677266/...

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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It could be extremely dangerous. The sun is very hot in Antalya. You should at least make sure your 3 year old has sun cream and maybe a hat to keep the sun off them. If it gets too hot I would suggest you try a Turkish ice cream called Mado (similar to Italian gelato), or maybe a cool drink. Also be warned that the 3 year old might get a lot of attention and people may give him sweets or soft drinks, particularly ic…

Mado is not an ice cream type, but merely a chain which sells ice cream. They usually do a good job do, you should try the ice cream.

Tasty. They use goat milk and real fruits-nuts.

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Conspiracy assertions like "trying to kill us" and "civil cops looting" make me no longer want to continue this thread.

Conspiracy? Yeah I have an unbelievable photoshop ability.. http://25.media.tumblr.com/ec39e9f4899e57c0d20ee6777c706c6d/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/9d9be489e91384e67e0709923d80834f/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/85b02a038c893bb3aecf82a7f08c7d6b/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/839abf4bc4709268dea470b3efbd6a19/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/4b9c64f573891519df441fb2665479fe/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff7423721c396…

Police using excessive force? Perhaps. Some people are standing against pressurized water and gas shells expecting nothing will happen? Absolutely.

These pictures proves nothing on your assertions "they are trying to kill us" and "civil police looting". Good luck on your protests.

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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The primary ISP provider has been slowing down / blocking port 80 / 443 packets going to facebook and twitter hosts. They are gradually blocking social media right now.

3G works as the cellular providers maintain their own internet structure. However they deployed signal jammers to protest locations.

So.. We are basically fucked. Media outlets are still running cooking shows.

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Conspiracy? Yeah I have an unbelievable photoshop ability.. http://25.media.tumblr.com/ec39e9f4899e57c0d20ee6777c706c6d/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/9d9be489e91384e67e0709923d80834f/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/85b02a038c893bb3aecf82a7f08c7d6b/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/839abf4bc4709268dea470b3efbd6a19/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/4b9c64f573891519df441fb2665479fe/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff7423721c396…

Police using excessive force? Perhaps. Some people are standing against pressurized water and gas shells expecting nothing will happen? Absolutely. These pictures proves nothing on your assertions "they are trying to kill us" and "civil police looting". Good luck on your protests.

Nothing to say more. I'll just walk on the streets to die.

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The primary ISP provider has been slowing down / blocking port 80 / 443 packets going to facebook and twitter hosts. They are gradually blocking social media right now. 3G works as the cellular providers maintain their own internet structure. However they deployed signal jammers to protest locations. So.. We are basically fucked. Media outlets are still running cooking shows.

Gotta add, before this; people used twitter really well during the protests.

They tweeted street names where help is needed. They tweeted doctor / laywer phone numbers. Called Veterinarians for stray animals affected from police gas. Shared ways to deal with gas (like using acid reflux medicine on your face)

So, the government must be really afraid now.

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Conspiracy? Yeah I have an unbelievable photoshop ability.. http://25.media.tumblr.com/ec39e9f4899e57c0d20ee6777c706c6d/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/9d9be489e91384e67e0709923d80834f/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/85b02a038c893bb3aecf82a7f08c7d6b/... http://25.media.tumblr.com/839abf4bc4709268dea470b3efbd6a19/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/4b9c64f573891519df441fb2665479fe/... http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff7423721c396…

Police using excessive force? Perhaps. Some people are standing against pressurized water and gas shells expecting nothing will happen? Absolutely. These pictures proves nothing on your assertions "they are trying to kill us" and "civil police looting". Good luck on your protests.

You not being in those streets wouldn't have the faintest idea how it feels; and meanwhile, you didn't even offer a SHRED of evidence for "protesters are destroying stuff around". You kind of make me sick, actually.

[edit: I am sorry for that last bit. Such dismissal of (even emotional reactions to) police brutality (by people facing it), makes me kinda sick. I haven't been on many demonstrations, but even in Germany I've seen cops gleefully rush, shove around and arrest utterly harmless school kids for protesting Chirac when he visited; I wouldn't want to be a protester in Turkey, that's for sure, and godspeed to all involved. Still, sorry for attacking you personally, that was uncalled for and is part of the problem.]

Re: Thousands of Istanbul citizens walking to protest government

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I'm Turkish. Let me try to shed some light on what's going on. What started as a small protest to prevent the demolishing of a park to build a mall on it turned into full-blown riots after some stunning displays of brutality by the police. The commentators are saying that the Turks had lots of pent-up anger over the years and this allowed them to let it all out. The result is the largest series of riots Turkey has se…

Let me get this straight - you think military influence on a government is what can preserve democracy? Because you think that in the case of a government that is heavily military based, that military part of the government would be for people? You're free to believe that, I suppose, but you'd be ignoring most of the world's history. Revolutions happen when normal people rise up against the government, no the militar…

People often forget that armies have an awful lot of soldiers. Those soldiers have friends and families. They kinda represent a hell of a lot of the population. That can have quite some effect. Not always, but often enough. Commanders do have to have at least an eye on what the rank and file want and are prepared to do, or they risk being turned on.
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