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Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by mertd »

bennyg wrote: post #87
reinhardt wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with all points. What I'm wondering is, what percentage of mobile users are like me, you and almost everyone that commented here? Does the proverbial "average user" share the sentiment? My guess is no, or else the marketroids that push the app agenda would have gotten the message by now.

Until they look at bounce rate before viewing content vs. number of downloads of app. That should be a big indicator of whether this works or not.

Which is a weak signal at best when you define actions like "Cancel to continue" (http://idontwantyourfuckingapp.tumblr.com/post/50193815132/t...).

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by cognivore »

This gives me an idea. Wouldn't it be cool if had some sort of run-time environment/virtual machine that everyone could target for their applications, where it used some sort of markup for forms and layout and a built in language for automation. It could post back to your server to send and receive data. Everyone could use that instead of their own native app that has to be downloaded.

I'm sure there would be some challenges to this, but I imagine it could be done.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by barking »

dubcanada wrote: post #64
edent wrote: post #31

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(I'm the creator of the site) I've noticed - and I may be wrong - that all the folk in the UK are unfazed by the swearing and have reacted quite positively either in person or on Twitter. The Americans, by contrast, seem a lot more upset about the swearing. I wonder why that is? Either way, I do wonder if some sections of the tech community are to... corporate in their approach to language. Look at the fuss when Linu…

It's a American thing sadly. The difference in culture. Where I'm from every second word is pretty much a swear word.

I swear too much, it's something I'm not proud of. Not least for the example I've set. I really admire people who can respond to difficult situations in a dignified manner. I never heard my mother curse and now I wince every time my children use one. I even hypocritically scold them for doing so. I get that from my father who ironically never uses bad language around his grandchildren.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by pghmatt »

jaynos wrote: post #73
snprbob86 wrote: post #54

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There is a difference between corporate and mature. Your article sounds like a kid who just discovered swearing. It lowers the information density of your post and distracts from your message. Furthermore, it reduces your credibility and hurts your persuasive writing goal. Lastly, it makes you sound like a fucking idiot.

American here. His colorful use of language sounds exactly like the thoughts in my head when I can't access a mobile site.

Agreed! I HATE when I'm searching for something, find a link and when I click it I see these download our app pop-up's or dialogs and then they redirect to the home page and lose the context of what I was trying to see! How hard is it to forward the querystring!

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by icebraining »

jrajav wrote: post #72
michaelfeathers wrote: post #62

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The Americans, by contrast, seem a lot more upset about the swearing. I wonder why that is? There's a prudish streak in the US that I really believe comes from the fact that the country was originally settled by people too religious and too concerned with overtly moral social interaction to be tolerated in 17th century England. That may seem like too easy an explanation but I really do think there is some truth to it…

As an agnostic American, this is pretty much exactly it. There are lots of subtle social stigmas - like cursing - due to the widespread Christian influence.

Due to a specific strand of Christianity. In the Southern European countries, for example, we have the opposite: plenty of Christianity inspired swearing.

I've mentioned it here before, but Your Mother's Tongue: Book of European Invective is a great and extremely funny book on the subject.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by jabits »

Wintamute wrote: post #23

How about we drop the prudishness, and discuss the points raised by the article? Seriously, what's with all the language moralising? This guys is totally free to make his points colourfully and passionately however he wants to. If it upsets you so much (it really shouldn't) then don't read it. His word choices are not hate speech or discriminatory so the fact that they may offend your sensibilities has precisely zero…

It's simply low-class and adds nothing. Extra words from an author that cannot make a point without pointless, useless, extraneous, immaterial, unrelated, redundant extra words.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by [deleted] »

corin_ wrote: post #84
aeikenberry wrote: post #74

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As an American who isn't offended in the slightest by swearing, all of this Brit condescension is much more offensive. We get it. You like to think you're so much more sophisticated. Even a slack-jawed blog proves this.

I'm not sure any of us Brits think our ability to swear is "sophisticated".

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Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by dreamfactory »

brudgers wrote: post #27
jkldotio wrote: post #12

I really loathe these app popups, unless you are doing some serious processing like a for a game there is almost no reason for an app. It breaks the power of a browser to have multiple documents and it breaks urls and linking to content. And, as they point out, it also is highly redundant when a mobile site has already been built. That's to say nothing of further redundancy in having more than one app: one for iOS, o…

There is a damn good reason for all these apps - tracking and monetizing datapoints. The app itself does not necessarily have to provide any value to the datapoint. Egocentrism inclines me to think that apps were written for me. Reason leads me to believe they were not.

Apps will give you a few more obscure datapoints that web analytics won't but I'll bet that very few companies actually use them. I doubt many even study bounce rates when they present you with these app download modals.
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