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Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by dasil003 »

aeikenberry wrote: post #74
dubcanada wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you know, you're American.

As an American who isn't offended in the slightest by swearing, all of this Brit condescension is much more offensive. We get it. You like to think you're so much more sophisticated. Even a slack-jawed blog proves this.

You have to admit that in general Brits are much better than Americans at swearing though. The problem in this case is simply the stylistic choice to rely primarily on "fucking" instead of the usual variety of flowery vituperation.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

#82

Post by antoko »

sghill wrote: post #65
Wintamute wrote: post #23

How about we drop the prudishness, and discuss the points raised by the article? Seriously, what's with all the language moralising? This guys is totally free to make his points colourfully and passionately however he wants to. If it upsets you so much (it really shouldn't) then don't read it. His word choices are not hate speech or discriminatory so the fact that they may offend your sensibilities has precisely zero…

> This guys is totally free to make his points colourfully and passionately however he wants to. I agree. He's created a very good and useful showcase of a specific frustration that many of us would prefer to never implement or deal with. For an exercise in venting, this style makes a lot of sense. > His word choices are not hate speech or discriminatory so the fact that they may offend your sensibilities has precise…

That's interesting, I'd have no problem linking this to my boss or PM if they were trying to convince us to implement something that resembled a doorslam. I'd probably include some reference to the fact that the language is colorful in the email and suggest this is the kind of passion that the proposed doorslam will raise in our own customers.

I'm a brit living in the US so add that as a datapoint too!

It doesn't even register on my offensive scale... did we have this same hand-wringing over zed shaw's programming motherfucker website? I don't recall it if we did. http://programming-motherfucker.com/become.html

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

#84

Post by corin_ »

aeikenberry wrote: post #74
dubcanada wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you know, you're American.

As an American who isn't offended in the slightest by swearing, all of this Brit condescension is much more offensive. We get it. You like to think you're so much more sophisticated. Even a slack-jawed blog proves this.

I'm not sure any of us Brits think our ability to swear is "sophisticated".

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

#85

Post by ErrantX »

jjoonathan wrote: post #79
laureny wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> as an American, I find my countrymen (oh crap, should that be countrypersons?!) are indeed eye-rollingly oversensitive about profanity and political correctness in general. I know it sounds trite, but it's mostly about the children. I couldn't care less about people dropping F bombs around me (although it does taint my opinion of them if it's done for no particular reason), but the less kids hear the word, the more…

> I know it sounds trite, but it's mostly about the children. > the less kids hear the word, the more they realize that it is not to be used lightly I don't agree. The less lightly kids think swear words are to be taken, the more they will use them to prop up their own attempts to be taken seriously by their peers and the adults around them. Once a kid hears someone who swears every other word, they realize that over…

These are somewhat circular arguments, of course :)

And really the "right" answer depends on the viewpoint of the observer (i.e. whether you approve of profanity or not).

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by bennyg »

reinhardt wrote: post #70
Nursie wrote: post #46

So much this. When I come to your site it is very unlikely I'm looking for any sort of long term relationship. What I want is access to the information I'm looking for as quickly and painlessly as possible. Secondly, your app probably wants various permissions on my system. No. Third, why the hell would I want hundreds of apps grunking up my menus? Fourth, you already have my whole screen, what more do you want? So y…

I agree with all points. What I'm wondering is, what percentage of mobile users are like me, you and almost everyone that commented here? Does the proverbial "average user" share the sentiment? My guess is no, or else the marketroids that push the app agenda would have gotten the message by now.

Until they look at bounce rate before viewing content vs. number of downloads of app. That should be a big indicator of whether this works or not.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

#88

Post by tqi »

michaelfeathers wrote: post #14

The worst case of this I've seen recently as an offer of free wifi at an airport after you.. .. download their app which gives you push notifications about hotels.

I agree that is annoying, but access to their wifi network is not an inalienable right, nor is it free for them to maintain. I don't see the problem with them trying to make money off of it via an app + ads... plus you always have the option of not using it?

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by dreamfactory »

snprbob86 wrote: post #78
dubcanada wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you know, you're American.

I'm also male, but I know better than to make sweeping generalizations about women, if I ever hope to work with one. This is the internet. There are Americans here. In fact, most of the sites with these annoying mobile experiences are American companies. Let's assume for a moment that the generalization is accurate... Consider: Successful persuasive writing must be written with a particular audience in mind.

Why would you assume it's supposed to persuade you of anything? Seems more observational to me.

Re: I Don't Want Your Fucking App

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Post by edent »

sghill wrote: post #65
Wintamute wrote: post #23

How about we drop the prudishness, and discuss the points raised by the article? Seriously, what's with all the language moralising? This guys is totally free to make his points colourfully and passionately however he wants to. If it upsets you so much (it really shouldn't) then don't read it. His word choices are not hate speech or discriminatory so the fact that they may offend your sensibilities has precisely zero…

> This guys is totally free to make his points colourfully and passionately however he wants to. I agree. He's created a very good and useful showcase of a specific frustration that many of us would prefer to never implement or deal with. For an exercise in venting, this style makes a lot of sense. > His word choices are not hate speech or discriminatory so the fact that they may offend your sensibilities has precise…

If I can find a way to add Creative Commons tags to each image, would that help?

If not, please take this as permission to copy those images and make your own non-sweary version.

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