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Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

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Re: Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

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May I ask which one you're with?

I'm with o2 and they dont. although they have been bought by sky (not sure if sky currently filter/block)

I'm with o2 broadband and they do, http://thepiratebay.se/ gives "The page you're looking for has been blocked."

Re: Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

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It seems the switch to a new domain name has broken the ISP censorship in the UK. thepiratebay.se redirects to a site blocked page. thepiratebay.is works. I'm sure it won't be long until they block it again but this domain change as well as the numerous proxy sites setup to bypass the block go to show that it's a waste of time to even try blocking stuff like this. Does anyone know if the ISP's will be automatically r…

Does thepiratebay.se. blocked too? With dot at the end.

Re: Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

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"[update: invasion in a sense as to coerce a country to achieve desired result by hook or by crook]" That's not even close to invasion if that's what you meant. I really can't imagine that anyone would come close to invading Iceland just because they host a domain.

What do you mean? It's already been done in response to Wikileaks: https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+iceland

Yes, and they got sent right back home before they could spell the name of their employer.

And the supreme court just trashed Mastercard for denying service to Wikileaks and its payment provider, DataCell. The verdict includes daily fines that would amount to 2.5 million dollars a year if they choose to continue denying services. (800k ISK daily fines = 292 million ISK yearly ~ 2.54 million USD)

I have high hopes for my country, and I know I'll be the first to go protest if they try to shut it down. Also, The Pirate Bay and file sharing in general has HUGE public support and the response in icelandic media has been nothing but positive, with responses from SMAIS (the icelandic version of RIAA/MPAA) being ridiculed and mocked.

Re: Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

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Yes.

To clarify, I meant if there was a hidden service. Not if there was functioning exit nodes that can access the website.

That I don't know. But if you're going for anonymity you probably shouldn't use torrents anyway, especially not public ones.

There are lots of interesting anonymous P2P protocols, although I don't think people care about it enough for any of them to have gained traction.

Re: Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

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What do you mean? It's already been done in response to Wikileaks: https://www.google.com/search?q=fbi+iceland

Yes, and they got sent right back home before they could spell the name of their employer. And the supreme court just trashed Mastercard for denying service to Wikileaks and its payment provider, DataCell. The verdict includes daily fines that would amount to 2.5 million dollars a year if they choose to continue denying services. (800k ISK daily fines = 292 million ISK yearly ~ 2.54 million USD) I have high hopes for…

I meant no disrespect to Iceland :-). Everything I hear makes it sound like a fantastic place. I was only pointing out that other countries, like the US, don't always share the same definition of "fantastic," and will exert pressure from all sides on countries that don't conform to their will.

Re: Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

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I hear a lot about "Well, find a new business model!", without explaining why a company should be forced to change based on clearly illegal activity. This is begging the question. The activity is illegal in the first place because of lobbying by the recording industry starting in the late 1800s/early 1900s.

Copyright has been around a lot longer than the late 1800's/early 1900's. And many, many people rely on it for their income, not just the recording industry. In fact, the entire software industry, pretty much. Does the recording industry lose protection because they're big?

Copyright was originally much shorter in duration, and did not cover phonographic recordings. I've lost the link, but I remember reading US senate hearings from the early 1900s in which phonograph producers were arguing against music publishers, basically following the same template you see the record labels using to argue against new technology today.

Relevant laws found on Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1831 (added musical compositions to US copyright)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1909 (added mechanical reproduction (piano rolls, phonographs) and public performances to US copyright)

Re: Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

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I hear a lot about "Well, find a new business model!", without explaining why a company should be forced to change based on clearly illegal activity. This is begging the question. The activity is illegal in the first place because of lobbying by the recording industry starting in the late 1800s/early 1900s.

I was under the impression that the 'recording industry' as we understand it today was spawned in the 1960's as a response to the Beatles and their popularity.

Likewise, I was under the impression that Edison was fairly ruthless when it came to wax cylinder production and musicians' rights.

Re: Pirate Bay Finds Safe Haven in Iceland, Switches to .IS Domain

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I hear a lot about "Well, find a new business model!", without explaining why a company should be forced to change based on clearly illegal activity. This is begging the question. The activity is illegal in the first place because of lobbying by the recording industry starting in the late 1800s/early 1900s.

So if you start a startup, you're totally fine if I take your code, your logo, your copyrights, and your name and create a copycat site and take your customers? You're okay with that? If so, please send me the details so I can keep an eye on you. Anyone else who's so inclined, reply as well. I'd love to grab a few zero-effort passive income generators.

Conflating trademarks and copyrights is not going to help us come to a rational agreement on the appropriate nature of either one. There's also a considerable difference between commercial and personal infringement.

I support the use of trademarks to prevent consumer confusion; I don't support the abuse of trademarks (e.g. to attempt to suppress commentary, comparison, or criticism). I also support short-term copyrights for the benefit of authors, performers, and creators. I don't support the current system where copyrights can extend beyond 100 years.

Tell you what: if I still have legal control over and working backups of my startup's software 28 years from now, you can contact me and I'll send you a CC0-licensed copy of my most recent release as of this date (Apr. 25, 2013).

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