Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

You know, Google, the web already had this feature

blog.vrypan.net

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

371–380 of 444 posts

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#371

Post by crazedpsyc »

ykaranfil wrote: post #352
crazedpsyc wrote: post #347

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is nothing malicious going on there. It does that so you can get instant answers where there would normally be auto-completion. This is covered very nicely in a paragraph in the addon's description, and can very obviously be disabled in the addon's preferences.

If you check the chrome page on fixtracking.com (prepared by DuckDuckGo), it is asking you to uncheck "Use a prediction service to help complete searches and URLs typed in the address bar", so what is the point here?It is enabled by default.

Not sure what you mean there -- these are two completely different things. That disables using a service (Google or Bing) to autocomplete. It does not affect what extensions like the DuckDuckGo one do.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#372

Post by mamoswined »

cbr wrote: post #312
tomkarlo wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While you may not want to comment on Google Play apps publicly, there's a lot of value for other users in being able to see what their actual friends said about an app rather than just random anonymous commenters. (And we've seen the issues on places like Amazon with ratings spamming.) It's just reality that some features may benefit the larger population but might not be to your taste - obviously every feature can't…

"we've seen the issues on places like Amazon with ratings spamming" My experience with Amazon ratings is that they've been accurate and useful. If there's a spam problem Amazon is dealing with it well, without requiring "real names" or social connections.

The ratings on Amazon for things like pots and pans are fine and useful. Books seem to be the main target for spamming.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#373

Post by Spoom »

blhack wrote: post #114

You guys in this thread whining about google: It isn't google that has changed, it is the whole world which has changed. Look at the things that some of you champion; the iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything made by apple computer, the company that is pushing the hardest against openness on the internet. Oh, you want some basic browser functionality like uploading files? Spend time learning objective C,…

"Oh hey! You know we could just give it all back."

Because I don't like part of a company, I have to avoid using any other part of that company? Or if I don't, I can't complain about the part of the company I don't like? I don't subscribe to such black and white thinking.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#374

Post by bitwize »

sesqu wrote: post #246
bitwize wrote: post #64

It's the 2013 version of Netscape's "What's New" and "What's Cool" buttons. Holy shit, nothing HAS changed. It just has a different skin on it.

What did those buttons do? I was always curious, but not curious enough to press them.

They took you to pages of interesting web links curated by Netscape, on their servers. The URLs were hardcoded into the binary.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#375

Post by angryasian »

jodrellblank wrote: post #204
angryasian wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it is fear mongering because the entire point of the article is to point out another widget/tracker, when its absolutely nothing new. Event their +1 button probably does the same thing. So the author wants to obviously use googles name to get more page views when this is nothing new and has been done for years by facebook and twitter.

But that's not the point. The point is claiming that Google took one existing open thing (RSS), killed it off, and replaced it with a Google-proprietary alternative. The spying agitating part is just side-complaining.

What are you talking about rss is not killed off, ask the feedly team rss is still alive and well. Point me to any site and I will show you their rss feed. The reality is most sites aggregate their content using twitter, rss, facebook.. so they are encouraging you to aggregate it in the same way. Really we have an issue with that.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#376

Post by angryasian »

criley wrote: post #359
criley wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google+ is a blight. I have multiple Google Accounts (I don't need my real name attached to my main gmail account!) and it's utter horror trying to use Google products. You either give up on having an anonymous email because they WILL FORCE YOUR real name to be attached to your email, or you give up on Google integration features because you simply CANNOT use Google features without a real name anymore. Trying to swi…

Reply to myself: If you're an Android dev, sorry I've never rated your apps, left comments or gotten ahold of you! The Play Store REQUIRES a fully activated real-name Google+ Account to rate apps and leave feedback, so I've been wholly unable to communicate with the dozens and dozens of apps that request feedback. Sorry friends. Blame Google!

whats wrong with society where we don't want to tell someone constructive criticism or positive feedback like it was a face to face conversation except online ?

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#377

Post by jacquesm »

angryasian wrote: post #376
criley wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reply to myself: If you're an Android dev, sorry I've never rated your apps, left comments or gotten ahold of you! The Play Store REQUIRES a fully activated real-name Google+ Account to rate apps and leave feedback, so I've been wholly unable to communicate with the dozens and dozens of apps that request feedback. Sorry friends. Blame Google!

whats wrong with society where we don't want to tell someone constructive criticism or positive feedback like it was a face to face conversation except online ?

What's wrong with receiving valuable information without being able to ascertain who sent it to you?

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#378

Post by andybak »

criley wrote: post #359
criley wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google+ is a blight. I have multiple Google Accounts (I don't need my real name attached to my main gmail account!) and it's utter horror trying to use Google products. You either give up on having an anonymous email because they WILL FORCE YOUR real name to be attached to your email, or you give up on Google integration features because you simply CANNOT use Google features without a real name anymore. Trying to swi…

Reply to myself: If you're an Android dev, sorry I've never rated your apps, left comments or gotten ahold of you! The Play Store REQUIRES a fully activated real-name Google+ Account to rate apps and leave feedback, so I've been wholly unable to communicate with the dozens and dozens of apps that request feedback. Sorry friends. Blame Google!

The question is - has this policy reduced the number of spammy, irrelevant or ignorant comments on the Play store. It used to be several notches below the quality of Youtube comments.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#379

Post by ansgri »

moogleii wrote: post #330
blhack wrote: post #114

You guys in this thread whining about google: It isn't google that has changed, it is the whole world which has changed. Look at the things that some of you champion; the iPhone, the iPad...anything running iOS, anything made by apple computer, the company that is pushing the hardest against openness on the internet. Oh, you want some basic browser functionality like uploading files? Spend time learning objective C,…

Quite the rose-tinted glasses you got on there. Relax. Besides, I'm not sure which is worse: spoiled children or slightly delusional children. Remember when Android didn't have Chrome? Or any version prior to ICS really. But whatever floats your boat.

Just somehow when my Galaxy S2 updated to ICS it became noticeably worse. Maybe just a bit more responsive. And what's wrong with Opera Mobile excapt slightly wrong rendering on some sites?

Btw, looking for a new smartphone and still the best option seems to be the same SGS2 without upgrade to ICS.

Re: You know, Google, the web already had this feature

#380

Post by dornab »

silverbax88 wrote: post #324
freshhawk wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really agree with you, except for one minor point: You are still thinking of google as if it's the "old google". Definitely before Google+ and probably even before the adwords division started calling all the shots. That's when google could have been called "one of the coolest companies in the world". Now they are heavily invested in building their own walled garden. Maybe it's not even anyone being "evil", and it'…

Something that has happened to me over the past month that I never thought would happen - I'm actively looking to use Bing and DuckDuckGo over Google. Bing, something I laughed at just a few months ago. Google's results are starting to waver and the Google+ requirement is a cancer eating their products from the inside.

Did you ever try the google vs bing comparison site? (http://www.bingiton.com/). I tried it and google won 5-0, it wasn't even close!

But I agree that google is not what it used to be. They have a weird hunger for our data. But it's not just them, all web companies have become very aggressive in getting our data, it feels like we're being watched the whole time. It's exactly the opposite of what the internet was early on, it's almost like a change in the philosophy of the web. And not for the better.

It seems like issues that famous people have, that they lose privacy at the price of fame, that whatever they do is public, forever. We all lost privacy and we didn't even get fame!

Post reply on HN