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Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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I have been a dreamer all my life. It took me until last year to figure this out, and only thanks to this community. Great. Dreaming is necessary but not sufficient for great accomplishments. Glad you're one of us. I hardly ever tried - and when I tried, I didn't persist. It has been my goal to start a business since ever I can remember. And yet I never really tried (until last year, which resulted in abysmal failure…

Damn, what can I say? Thanks man! Will take your advise to heart. My post probably came across as a bit too much whinging. Will make sure that I deliver stuff from now on, rather than empty talk.

And do not underestimate how important this piece is: "...and keep us posted." As edw said, it sounds like you may need people to hold you accountable on your journey (and one of the key ingredients you may lack) ... use us in this capacity. By the way, that's me to a T as well. I need people around that keep me focused on moving forward.

Now go, and to great things worthy of honor.

Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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Yes, but so far, I literally haven't achieved anything. I'm not shooting for Google or Facebook. If only I can find a small niche market, I would be perfectly content with that.

Then that puts you in a position to achieve fulfillment at an earlier age and with less risk than most twenty-something startuppies dreaming of an exit most won't ever get. Even though you're a dreamer, keeping realistic expectations and finding some project you care about is gonna put you on a fast track. I learned coding within the last 2 years or so, and before that I had felt quite as you did. I dabbled in Visual…

I agree with goldfeld on this, there is this barrier with every language that many people get stuck on. In Java it's Cat cat = new Cat(), in C it's *fu, in Perl it's s/win/fail, in Assembly it's Assemlby, in C# it's LINQ, etc. But once you manage to get over the first or second hurdle, your perspective on technology widens and you are ready to take on more hurdles.

Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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You seem to view yourself and your life as a failure, as a "loser", and think you have a long-term record of failures. Such an ingrained self-image is not going to be magically changed by any advice from a web forum or self-help book. Even were you to find what you consider "success" (which is most likely merely monetary), I doubt it would really make much of an impact in the long run. Take a look at the countless lo…

What helped me was the realization that depression is only a hallucination triggered by the brain, after that realization there was nothing left to feed that depression and it deflated.

Exactly, rationalization is one of the most effective and powerful technics in fighting all kinds of phobias, neurosis, panic attacks, etc. Once you know what is really going on, why do you feel that way and what is causing it, it's instantly much easier to deal with the problem.

Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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Hi there Stefan.

I'm in a similar situation as you are, even though my journey to get there has been a bit different. I recognize the feeling you have of being a "looser" and I'm also looking for change.

I left my day job 5 years ago to pursue my dream of starting something of my own in the it-business. 18 months of hard work later I had failed, but still managed to get picked up by another startup, where I have been working since. It has been a good journey but this weekend I took the decision to start another chapter of my life and try to make something of my own again.

The funny thing is that I have actually been planning on moving to Switzerland at the same time too. Have been there many times and I just love it there. Feels like my life is to short not to be where I want to be, and not doing the things I want to do, so why not change it all at once? :)

I consider myself pretty proficient in programming and got some experience with startups, so maybe we could exchange some ideas and knowledge? My email is intesa@hush.com, just drop me a line if you want to someone to talk to on mail, skype or even meet up for a coffee next time I'm in Switzerland.

Tschuss!

Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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I go through some form of that feeling everyday and have found that listening to that voice that keeps telling you how much you suck will only make things much worse. I have yet to solve the problem of regularly getting seduced by the idea that i am hopelessly untalented, which makes me feel entitled to laze around and waste whatever is left of my life. But it gets more powerful with each day that i waste.

Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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post #18

You sound depressed, and I think you should be talking to people about getting help. Your career will be fine no matter what you do. Please take your health seriously.

Honestly, having a professional tell me that I was depressed was the turning point in my life. Suddenly the big problem in my life wasn't that I was such a loser, it was that I was inclined to think that I was such a loser. And this new problem was one that I could manage: finding new triggers to my depression and avoiding them; understanding when I'm being unreasonably demanding of myself or others because I've ente…

> Suddenly the big problem in my life wasn't that I was such a loser, it was that I was inclined to think that I was such a loser

That sounds familiar. I had the same problem, and I know several others who have that problem too. None of them are losers, they just listen too much to their thoughts: "Every day, 95% of us have thoughts with depressive, anxious or obsessive content. So why isn't 95% of us mental patients? The explanation is simple: Everybody has crazy thoughts, but not everybody believes in them."[1] When fully realizing that, things change dramatically.

ACT has been very good to me. Let me recommend a book: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Happiness-Trap-Based-revolutionary-m...

[1] "Tankevirus" by Hanne H. Brorson (unfortunately only available in Norwegian.)

Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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Thanks for your concern, but I'm not depressed.

If you aren't i'd be really surprised. At the very least your thought patterns are self-sabotaging and depression-inducing. There might be something else going on here too, that it would be good to check with a doctor about (bipolar?) Your life isn't going to get back on track until you start thinking better about yourself. The reason you're so self-absorbed right now is because you're constantly beating yourself up;…

As someone in a very similar situation to OP, and someone who is about to move to another country precisely for the reasons you cite, I can't agree with you more. Just deciding to move has made me a lot more motivated. Granted, I don't realy know what I'm going to find, but at least I'm fighting this thing head-on.

Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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You sound depressed, and I think you should be talking to people about getting help. Your career will be fine no matter what you do. Please take your health seriously.

I read it as very self-reflective, but not in a bad way. His slight self-degrading humour strikes a chord with me as a soon-to-be-30-year-old who is still an utter failure (by "millionaire by 23, billionaire by 28" standards).

I agree I didn't take this as a severely depressed person. Just someone who wants to change. Kudos and good luck I say. Work hard, be good to people and good things will come.

Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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I am 44 years old, I ended up on disability in 2003 and haven't worked a job ever since. I have two degrees one in computer science and one in business management. I earned the later after I was disabled and graduated with honors. I suffer from schizo-affective disorder and when I developed that mental illness I lost 95% of my friends and family who basically abandoned me, and wrote me off as a loser and failure. I lost my job and my career was basically ruined as well.

I learned over 37 different programming languages over 30 years of my life, and most if not all are obsolete. Like Turbo Pascal, FORTRAN, COBOL, ADA, 8086 Assembly Language, JCL/JECL, etc. Yes I worked with a variety of different operating systems and computers. Even mainframes and minicomputers as well as many old 8 bit microcomputers, etc.

Pointers, basically some modern languages did away with them. It seems one has to learn how computer memory works to figure out how to use a pointer, and for that one has to learn how a computer works. But if they can eliminate pointers and direct access in modern languages then more people can learn how to program. Many programmers forgot to set their pointers and ended up with a null pointer that may have been set to the address of 0 (system memory) or may have been set to some random address that happened to be in the memory the location of the pointer is stored at. Basically a pointer holds a memory address to a block of memory that data is being stored at. But it seems to be too complex for most people to understand. Back in my days in learning Pascal and Pre-ANSI C it was required to learn.

Anyway don't feel like you are a loser or a failure, just learn from your mistakes and failures and then keep trying until you get better. That is how we human beings learn. It is how we learned to walk as infants. We fell down a lot, had to crawl first, but basically we put one foot in front of the other and learned how to keep our balance and walk. But we don't remember all the times trying to walk that we failed and made mistakes.

Startups are like that too, I want to share a link to a blog. Some flag it as offtopic because it talks about mental illnesses and technology and startups, yet when others post those same things it makes the front page. This post in the blog is about losers and why there are no losers: http://fakemdc.blogspot.com/2013/02/there-are-no-losers-just...

Steve Jobs suffered failures and mistakes and it cost him his job at Apple in 1985. But he didn't give up, he kept trying and trying and learning from mistakes and failures. Many people did the same thing.

If you want to talk about it, my email is orionblastar@gmail.com

Re: I'm a loser and I want to change that - now

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post #54

I have been a dreamer all my life. It took me until last year to figure this out, and only thanks to this community. Great. Dreaming is necessary but not sufficient for great accomplishments. Glad you're one of us. I hardly ever tried - and when I tried, I didn't persist. It has been my goal to start a business since ever I can remember. And yet I never really tried (until last year, which resulted in abysmal failure…

>> Somehow, I did get back into it a few years later, but I never really became proficient at it. Again, I was good at learning the basics, reading code, messing around with code snippets on the command line. But I never built anything of value.

> Stop reading code. Stop messing around. Find something that needs to be built (preferably by someone other than yourself). Then build it. Trust yourself and trust the process of building. You will learn what you need when you need it. I promise.

>> I don't have too much time left. My 20ies are gone.

> Bullshit. I didn't do my first startup until I was 32. Stop thinking like that. If you're a programmer, your prime is still 20 years ahead of you. (Believe me, I know.)

The single biggest thing I got out of this. Thanks for your $0.02 edw519.

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