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Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by wilfra »

antihero wrote: post #74
wilfra wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good video. I disagree that the government should do anything about it though. What's the alternative, make them homeless? If there is both supply and demand, let people do what they want. If San Francisco allowed this, there would be far fewer homeless people, but the only options they give them are $2,000 a month apartments or living in the streets. So lots of people live in the streets.

Or, take money from people who are minted and have lots of money and use said money to make these poor people's lives less awful. Wealth distribution on this planet is fucking terrible.

That works once, then it stops working in the future and backfires because people would no longer be motivated to create wealth in that jurisdiction. Which means no jobs and no tax revenue.

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Post by steholmes »

irmbrady wrote: post #32

As someone who is moving from the UK to HK in 3 months, with no job or visa secured, and attempting to bootstrap my (first) startup; this scares the crap out of me!

Are you moving to HK for a specific reason? As it's one of the world's most expensive places and although things are slowly improving it's not a particularly great place for startups.

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by waps »

icebraining wrote: post #69

I find it odd that whoever build those houses decided to make tiny apartments instead of larger shared ones. For cooking, having a shared kitchen - even if used by many families - would probably help a lot, specially since it's cheaper and easier to make a big communal meal than having to cook for each family.

You don't understand. These apartments are shared (in most cases). Communal houses are a complete disaster if you don't choose who gets to live in there with you (theft, fights, -God forbid- rape, parties, bullying, ...)

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by wilfra »

7952 wrote: post #71
wilfra wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good video. I disagree that the government should do anything about it though. What's the alternative, make them homeless? If there is both supply and demand, let people do what they want. If San Francisco allowed this, there would be far fewer homeless people, but the only options they give them are $2,000 a month apartments or living in the streets. So lots of people live in the streets.

If San Francisco allowed the sale of contaminated food there would be demand for it from people who have no choice. This is really a consumer rights issue. The landlords should provide a basic standard of safety for such high rents. The scope for exploitation is huge and the government should protect people from that. The size issue is less important.

If landlords are exploiting people and providing unsafe places to live, then that should be dealt with. I haven't seen anybody other than you mention those things though. People are just appalled by how small and ugly the rooms/cages are and they feel sorry for the people who choose to live there. The government shouldn't tell people who want to pay to live there that they cannot do so.

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Post by thisone »

vecinu wrote: post #4
berlinbrown wrote: post #2

I live in apartment. Not a micro-one. But I imagine you can find solace in just having only the things you need. Why do you need a ranch size home and 20 acres?

This comes down to having freedom and experiencing life on 'a ranch and 20 acres'. If you've never experienced life in such a way, it is almost impossible to understand why people live this way. I for one love having my own washroom and bedroom where I can rest, relax and find silence. Do you think a family of 4 would find comfort in an apartment? I'm fairly sure if money were no object and transportation was near in…

Of course a family of 4 can be comfortable in an apartment.

Three bedrooms, living area, kitchen, full bathroom with possibly a half bath if it's a larger place.

Why couldn't a family of 4 be comfortable?

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Post by waps »

vecinu wrote: post #4
berlinbrown wrote: post #2

I live in apartment. Not a micro-one. But I imagine you can find solace in just having only the things you need. Why do you need a ranch size home and 20 acres?

This comes down to having freedom and experiencing life on 'a ranch and 20 acres'. If you've never experienced life in such a way, it is almost impossible to understand why people live this way. I for one love having my own washroom and bedroom where I can rest, relax and find silence. Do you think a family of 4 would find comfort in an apartment? I'm fairly sure if money were no object and transportation was near in…

  I'm fairly sure if money were no object and transportation was near instant,
It's 2013 ... why can't we have that ? Surely the technology for this exists. I've always had this dream of "turbolifts" from startrek, the ground-based version. They're basically single-wagon trains that can go horizontally and vertically so they function as elevators. So you get in at the end of the hallway (or even the front door of your room) and you step out at work, or in a public station, or ... The big difference is, of course, that it works like a car. You get in whereever and you get out at home, or vice versa. No trains, no swapping cars, no ... Make it cheap by mass producing small cars.

Why can't we build something like that ?

Heh, I've even programmed algorithms for routing these things. There are lots of problems of course, the cars need to be extremely reliable, or you need an extremely flexible mechanical design so you can pick broken ones up from rails. But a comfortable, large, elevator takes up much less space than a car, but of course needs much more infrastructure ... Oh well, dreams ...

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Post by paganel »

Too wrote: post #64
berlinbrown wrote: post #2

I live in apartment. Not a micro-one. But I imagine you can find solace in just having only the things you need. Why do you need a ranch size home and 20 acres?

Try to store one, or maybe even two expensive and dirty mountain bikes in an apartment. Especially with a crazy girlfriend around.

I live in a studio apartment in an Eastern-European capital city and you're right, there's no room for a bike in here. Well, tough luck for me, it means I'll only bike whenever I care enough about it to rent one.

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Post by thisone »

Too wrote: post #64
berlinbrown wrote: post #2

I live in apartment. Not a micro-one. But I imagine you can find solace in just having only the things you need. Why do you need a ranch size home and 20 acres?

Try to store one, or maybe even two expensive and dirty mountain bikes in an apartment. Especially with a crazy girlfriend around.

clean the bikes, get a wall rack, and dump the girlfriend (which might get you down to one bike)

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Post by brudgers »

These are about the size of one of Florida's maximum security prison cells.

"Cells within the Cell Housing Unit have one or two bunks and lockers for personal items. Generally, inmates who require a higher level of supervision are housed in this type of cell. Cells range in size from 7 feet wide to 10 feet 8 inches or 14 feet long. "

In 2011, Florida had just over 100,000 people in prison (that does not include jails or Federal prisons).

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/vtour/securecell.include

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/faq.html

Re: Apartments So Small They Can Only Be Photographed From Above

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Post by waps »

lignuist wrote: post #53
kiiski wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure it can. Just make the heating pipes inaccessible.

This would "solve" the problem within one winter...

The French revolutionaries actually did that. They killed the poor. How ? Simple : they washed their clothes, then sent them back into the cold.
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