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Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by sigkill »

fleitz wrote: post #121
powertower wrote: post #102

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If you think you can legitimately compare the living conditions, political environment, and human suffering in North Korea that with the USA, you might have also brainwashed yourself (it happens when you take everything you have for granted). In NK you'd be lucky to get 1 meal a day. Over here poor people are morbidly fat. And at the end of the day, you're not a prisoner, if you hate it here so much, you can leave th…

How is it that you think I was talking about a country other than NK? Is there a country other than NK with such a piss poor human rights record? Generally when someone murders one person we regard them as a horrid individual we don't say their not that bad because they only killed 1 instead of 10 like that Ted Bundy guy. I didn't say I was living in a police state, the country I live in hasn't executed anyone in 40…

Fantastic - And I mean no sarcasm. Your previous comment was brilliantly written, allowing the user to draw his own conclusion. Except for that part 'incarcerate people at a rate higher than any other country' which gives it away...

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by elsewhere »

blumentopf wrote: post #131
willscott wrote: post #78

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I wouldn't be surprised if some of the ICMP responses are forged - It seems disadvantageous for the site to have such a long path, since each hop has the potential for attack. http://www.thoughtcrime.org/software/fakeroute/ can be seen as previous work that it is practical to do something like this.

No it's not forged as can be seen from the AS path in the global routing table.

Yes, it is forged, as explained by tuomasb.

Furthermore, a round trip time less than about 60 ms between Europe and North Korea is impossible, assuming the data is traveling at the speed of light. And we measured much less than that.

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by breck »

mikeash wrote: post #252
breck wrote: post #189

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You have some very good points. Brief note: Rodman's trip was very different than most NK trips. He spent a lot of direct time with Un. #1) Good point. I don't know anything about who gets sent to the prison camps in NK. #2) 1/31 of the U.S. adult population is in prison, which is higher than 0.69%. If you were a black male, that number shoots up to 9%. If you were playing the ovarian lottery and wanted to optimize f…

Regarding #2, if I were somehow forced to choose between being in an American prison and living in North Korea, not in prison, I'd have to sit down and do some serious thinking and research before I could make a decision.

:) Good point!

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by breck »

chubbard wrote: post #201
breck wrote: post #119

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Keep in mind that our news media reports only the facts that fit their story of "NK is evil" and don't report any facts to the contrary. I assure you without a doubt it's a lot better place than our media makes it seem. Sure, their undemocratic system of government is a bad one, it's a CVS system when the rest of the world has moved to Git, and they will be A LOT better off when they switch, but the place has a lot o…

Ah yes Dennis Rodman is such a reliable source of information. He has to suck up to low life dictators. He's broke as shit! At this point Rodman is hoping to be anyone's lapdog just for rent money. There are people in prison camps for things their grandfathers did in North Korea. At least the people in the US had a trial by their peers for something they were actually were accused of doing.

I like that Dennis Rodman does what he does. He lives on the outskirts of our norms and enriches all of our lives by pushing the limits and exploring our options.

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Post by cema »

kyllo wrote: post #196
samatman wrote: post #118

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I was kind of blown away when I realised that the Han (Chinese) refer to the Koreans as "Han", also. Their own autonym is pronounced closer to "Hen".

Han (Chinese) and Han (Korean) are homophones in English and in Korean, but they have a different character and different tone in Chinese, and different meaning. It's completely coincidence that they are both "Han." For more, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han

Wow, I did not know it. Thanks!

Re: The Pirate Bay is now hosted in North Korea

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Post by icebraining »

tg3 wrote: post #195
icebraining wrote: post #133

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Do you think child raping pedophiles will stop raping children if they can't host their boards at PRQ?

Just because something will continue to occur does not justify your contribution to it occurring.

No, but it means they aren't choosing freedom of speech over child abuse, like GP was insinuating.

And I find the accusation of supporting child abuse rather unfair, unless one plans to accuse Tor and Freenet node operators (like me) of the same; after all, we all know actual child porn, not just talk, probably goes through our machine. The obfuscation just offloads our moral dillemas, it doesn't change the facts.

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Post by guelo »

millerc wrote: post #235
guelo wrote: post #212

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The piratebay does not host content. It is a directory, it is pure speech. "Congress shall make no law..."

I wish people would stop making such jumps in logic to justify an untenable position. Facilitating the download of illegal content has nothing to do with "speech" or personal opinion, even if the phrase can be rewritten as "telling people where to find warez".

"congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech unless that speech helps people download the avengers" ?

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Post by jlgaddis »

viraptor wrote: post #116
Wilya wrote: post #37

So. A traceroute to thepiratebay.se is kind of amusing. From my home (Sweden), the packets seem to go to Frankfurt, then New York, take a link via an ip which reverses to intelsatone.net to a cambodgian ip (500ms latency right here), then reach the ip 175.45.177.217, assigned to Star Joint Venture Co Ltd. Who seem to be a legitimate North Korea internet provider (or, well, as legitimate as it gets, coming from North…

It could be bad labelling too. I'm not sure about the details of how it happened, but I used an ISP in UK who was assigning ranges officially located in Italy. (BTW: that really broke google for a long time. google will revert your language to the automatically discovered one, even after you use their magic url that should prevent this)

There is no "official location" of IP addresses.

The IP addresses allocated to the ISP I work for are "officially located" (according to my ARIN POC records) in the city I live in (specifically, at my PO Box). We ($ISP) don't even provide service in that city.

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Post by CamperBob2 »

bcgraham wrote: post #242
CamperBob2 wrote: post #186

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(Shrug) They can make rules, or they can make money. Their call.

I don't think your viewpoint is fit for dignified public discourse. It's theft. It's not a new, modern crime, with deep implications still being processed by moral intuitions, legislatures, and courts. When something becomes easy to steal, it doesn't become less of a theft.

It's not a new, modern crime

Everything related to copyright law is brand new and modern. It is not a natural right. It was created by consensus. That consensus can and will change.

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