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Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that we should hold all parties to the same standard no matter who the party is, but commercial usage should add additional expectations from the defending party. Commercial use is commonly perceived as "worse" than if it's done for private/non-profit use. But my initial comment was mostly to acknowledge that we do not give the benefit of doubt to private persons, but we do to commercial entities. The law sho…

I work in advertising for multi-national clients the size of Sony, and believe me, acquiring the rights to images is a hugely important step in any marketing campaign. Most likely Sony hired an outside firm to create them a logo, and that firm copied it instead. I have no doubt Sony will apologize and pay a standard fee plus some for its use. If you think a huge corporation like Sony, with billions of dollars of sale…

After they were told of their mistake, did they stop with the infringement or did they continue selling their devices?

Its one thing to do a mistake, but its an other to continue because its cheaper to ignore copyright law than to do a complete stop in the production and selling of a product. At that point they are doing willingly infringing copyright law.

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

#152

http://web.archive.org/web/20020808140127im_/http://www.true... On the left hand side of that image you see a little segment that conists of a hand, an eye and an ear. Those stand for interaction, video and audio. TrueTech hired Jonathan Kraij, a talented young designer to make that logo and it was featured in many places, magazines such as wave and many others besides in the late 90's. Not three weeks after one prom…

yeah let's "make believe"

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

#153

As a former Sony employee although in the consumer TV's business rather than either Vaio or Sony Music I'm pretty confident it is a mistake and that it is likely to be fixed. [The Sony TV's came with a paper license in the box for all the various open source licenses of the software included in the TV and I believe there is a website with all the relevant source.] If it is used in a website is it really a breach of t…

The problem is not that it is used.

Its used without attribution and correct licensing information, especially as the website states that all material is copyrighted(!).

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These sites don't. http://www.tineye.com/search/20fd99e0d87a8d04e30b5c307d81b49...

This seems to be an image search site like google images. It does find the same icon on toshiba.com: http://us.toshiba.com/computers/accessories This icon seems to be very popular indeed...

It doesn't fit on that Toshiba page at all! Everything is dark and then bam white and yellow!

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

#155
post #38

This leads me to a legal question about GPL stuff.. Say the guys at KDE threw their full legal might behind this- what would happen to Sony? Obviously they would be required to change it (or include the GPL licence), but is that all? What kind of 'damages' could be claimed in such a situation?.. ie what is the risk to Sony in doing this. NB i'm using this (somewhat trivial) example to talk about GPL violation more br…

Well, it is still copyright infringement. It doesn't matter if the copyright says you can do whatever you want as long as you mention our license, if you don't follow the terms you're still infringing on their copyright.

Isn't the standard metric $150,000 per infringement? AFAIR, that's the statutory rate they apply for MP3 pirating.

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

#157

As a former Sony employee although in the consumer TV's business rather than either Vaio or Sony Music I'm pretty confident it is a mistake and that it is likely to be fixed. [The Sony TV's came with a paper license in the box for all the various open source licenses of the software included in the TV and I believe there is a website with all the relevant source.] If it is used in a website is it really a breach of t…

The problem is not that it is used. Its used without attribution and correct licensing information, especially as the website states that all material is copyrighted(!).

They seem to be followin the "ask for forgiveness, not for permission" philosophy!

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

#158
Look at this completely disproportionate response over one lousy icon. As someone else mentioned, this is likely the result of a lazy graphic designer, not corporate malice.

How many KDE users have pirated Sony content anyway, hmm?

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

#159

As a former Sony employee although in the consumer TV's business rather than either Vaio or Sony Music I'm pretty confident it is a mistake and that it is likely to be fixed. [The Sony TV's came with a paper license in the box for all the various open source licenses of the software included in the TV and I believe there is a website with all the relevant source.] If it is used in a website is it really a breach of t…

The problem is not that it is used. Its used without attribution and correct licensing information, especially as the website states that all material is copyrighted(!).

Sony should not have claimed copyright and should not have used it without attribution.

I'm however not sure of the legal status of components of LGPL software that are downloaded components of a hosted service. If they are not "distributed" the license brings no requirements does it?

Re: Sony Pirates KDE Artwork

#160
post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it hyperbole, really, when the same argument would be applied in the opposite direction? I know that KDE somehow has a reputation for quiet professionalism [1], but I don't think that should extend to a developer's personal opinion, nor do I think that pointing out the hyperbole of someone else is itself an example of hyperbole. Especially when the hyperbole is so obviously hyperbolic! [1] http://inmyholyopinion.c…

but this blog author/developer is acting like they are representing KDE as a whole. "Should we". He didn't preface by saying "IMHO" or "These are my views and I'd like your opinion"

The blog author is asking the community [KDE] a question, not acting as if his opinion represents the community. He's talking to me and my fellow developers, via an open letter.

KDE is a much looser community than you may be used to seeing within open source projects. You seem to be projecting to see an alpha dev who's looking back at his friends saying "What should we do with this one?" with a grin on his face and a plot in his mind. But that's not what's going on, and that's not what someone in KDE would see. What you see on the tin is all that's going on.

A KDE developer's opinion is implicitly his or her own and no one elses.

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