> Hobby groups projects like this are less fun for a lot of people who used to enjoy interacting with smart people It is insane just how miserable the experience of FOSS hardware hacking in public is. The expectation does not even the slightest match reality. You'd think "ah yes many eyes meaning all bugs get shallow", but instead you get worst of XDA-Developers and toxic wastelands where no sane person even answers…
It's the oldest unsolved problem of the internet: how to attract high-value people and keep out low-value contributors.
While I don't disagree with you, they shouldn't have to. This should be one of those things like covering your mouth when you cough in a crowd and not playing loud music in your cube that people with basic social skills should know not to do. Unfortunately, like much basic courtesy, we apparently now have to make rules.
I agree, but it seems that some people actually need to be told that copy/pasting a bunch of LLM slop into chat is like farting on an elevator. I wouldn't even say that it comes down to "social skills" in a lot of cases, it's just people who seem to be performatively using AI. I'd classify them as corporate climber "yes, boss" types more than lacking in social skills.
Person 1 finds an exploit the old fashioned way. Keeps it secret because they’re doing some PS5 Linux work and want to keep it unpatched until GTA6 releases in 2 weeks. I don’t have a PS5 but I assume new games might require a firmware update to play? Person 2 uses an LLM and finds the same exploit. Person 1 asks Person 2 not to report it and collect the bounty until GTA6 is released. Person 2 agrees. Person 3 also f…
Phrased the story the way you did, Person 2 is a total asshole. They decided not to honor an agreement based on vibes?
Something I'll never understand about American culture is that morality and legality are equivalent, and scamming your friend in a way that keeps you legally in the clear is seen as something to be celebrated. Add a sob story "but my mom is dying" and you're the national hero.
okay, but what about people who get more enjoyment out of talking to their family while performing a shared task, than eating the pizza. showing up to the pizza making session a frozen pizza from the store says "I don't want to talk to you"
Pretty sure the comment you’re replying to is satire, and that you agree with each other.
It which point you reject the PR and suggest them to maintain a fork themselves.
I'd say don't bother suggesting anything. Not as a rule for all prs you want to reject, but any time it seems to be no-effort pure ai. Both to waste as little of your own time and effort as possible, but also to to help make this activity not rewarding. I wouldn't worry about false positives and being unfair. This is self defense and also community defense. Anyone legit will manage to get your attention. You'd be fil…
I put something like that right into AGENTS.md in one of my open source repositories -- disclose the usage of AI (it's super obvious anyway) and be prepared to act on review comments, otherwise the PR is closed and submitted could be banned depending on my mood. And I only got like 3 PRs before I put it.
Those weren't even that bad code-wise, some have uncovered realy problems, but I ended up asking /my/ LLM to ponytail them into shape, because the submitter didn't bother.
Hobby groups projects like this are less fun for a lot of people who used to enjoy interacting with smart people. It's definitely become a game of just spam claude for answers with zero understanding or care for how anything actually works. That's fine to get things done and fine for a lot of side projects, but it definitely ruins the joy that people have in understanding systems and working with intellectuals.
In general, society is experience a decoupling of fun from work. I can't say I enjoy every aspect of my job, but it's nice to enjoy some of it, and lots of people do find a lot of their job at least somewhat rewarding. People who hate their job of course like to come out of the woodwork and say no one should enjoy it, but isn't it nice to have a society where at least some people can enjoy their work? I used to enjoy…
You have to fight to keep work fun. It requires skill and some cunning. People are not going to hand you a "fun job", that part falls on you.
Hobby groups projects like this are less fun for a lot of people who used to enjoy interacting with smart people. It's definitely become a game of just spam claude for answers with zero understanding or care for how anything actually works. That's fine to get things done and fine for a lot of side projects, but it definitely ruins the joy that people have in understanding systems and working with intellectuals.
> Hobby groups projects like this are less fun for a lot of people who used to enjoy interacting with smart people. This is definitely the case for me. Before AI tools became mainstream, it was already a difficult proposition to find other smart people who you could get along with and talk to, do something interesting together. The Internet made all the difference in my life because I was able to get outside my geogr…
It feels like understanding is no longer required to produce code, as long as the program can pass the tests. Also, most software rarely causes severe real world damage, so it simply requires less guarantee and quality than other engineering such as buildings, bridges, etc.. With LLMs, code is just like cars, it carries you to your destination, you do not have to understand how it works.
I think the reason to not invest your time in PS5 linux is that sony hates it and will patch it away over and over, and nobody really wants it. It's $200, mediocre hardware. I might be showing a lot of unc energy here, but if you can't afford a raspberry pi or something to play with linux, or a used pc, gaming and having a playstation 5 should be de prioritized for a bit while you get your life together.
> I might be showing a lot of unc energy here, but if you can't afford a raspberry pi or something to play with linux, or a used pc, gaming and having a playstation 5 should be de prioritized for a bit while you get your life together. Your comment is framed as though Linux usage and what you deem an unstable lifestyle (lack of monetary means in your judgment) are mutually exclusive. Open-source software is for every…
Your argument contains a category error. I am arguing based on what is adaptive and in a person's best interests. You are countering that they have the right to be a mess and still have hobbies. That does not answer my point at all, I agree with you that people who are a mess still have the right to have whatever hobbies they want. I also claim that if they have a $700 gaming console and multiple $50+ games but don't have access to a computer they are likely not acting in their own best interests.