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Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by mitxela »

simondotau wrote: post #959
mitxela wrote: post #947

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1 is untrue, 2 is untrue, 3 is the same as x.com

1 is true: if you control the web server, you control whether the content is published as readable by anonymous visitors. 2 is true: if you disagree, provide the name of that singular corporation. To be clear, you're always relying on corporations, but there's no single gatekeeper. 3 is not the same: if I see something published on "www.water.dcceew.nsw.gov.au" I can be reasonably confident that it is published by my…

1. You don't control the wordpress.com or tumblr.com web server

2. Wordpress or Tumblr respectively

3. but it's not, it's dcceew.tumblr.com or dcceew.wordpress.com

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by account42 »

benrutter wrote: post #880
zx8080 wrote: post #813

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> My point is: companies stop making your product suck, and people won't have a reason to try and fix it for you. What an idealistic nonsense. Companies do anything not for people, but for money. We are not living in a socialist utopia (fortunately!).

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but it's worth pointing out that most businesses outside of tech don't operate a "build a monopoly then bleed it dry" model, and are a lot nicer for it, while still making money. Shops, cinemas, B2B consultancies etc generally make money by selling something people want. (I do get that tech VC doesn't work under this principle and it's not simpld to just change a sectors…

> Shops, cinemas, B2B consultancies etc generally make money by selling something people want.

There are plenty of dark patterns and enshittification in all of these as well. Tech is just way ahead of the curve but the rest isn't innocent either.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by zavec »

mitxela wrote: post #887
numpad0 wrote: post #815

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^ this and the entire drama is just an ad campaign to make the rebranding stick. what is really going to work is to keep calling it Twitter, as it identifies itself, and slowly move over the scene to Bluesky/Mastodon. What demoralize them the most is to show whoever pays for it doesn't matter.

It would be really funny if Elon lost the Twitter trademark due to not using it.

Just a few days ago there was an article about how they lost the bluebird logo and the word "tweet," so it seems possible!

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by latexr »

mitxela wrote: post #887
numpad0 wrote: post #815

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^ this and the entire drama is just an ad campaign to make the rebranding stick. what is really going to work is to keep calling it Twitter, as it identifies itself, and slowly move over the scene to Bluesky/Mastodon. What demoralize them the most is to show whoever pays for it doesn't matter.

It would be really funny if Elon lost the Twitter trademark due to not using it.

That was close to happening. He already lost the logo and “tweet”.

https://thenextweb.com/news/musk-x-twitter-bird-logo-tweet-t...

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by account42 »

KronisLV wrote: post #952
nananana9 wrote: post #942

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The primary difference of course being that not a single worthwhile thing has ever been posted on TikTok, while X is a "public space" used by politicians, governments, public figures, news agencies, et al. I'd like to see the fire department's tweet without having to sign up for X on the spot right now and do a 20 round captcha, followed by a prompt to install the app to verify my age, because suspicious activity was…

> Twitter is a public space used by politicians, governments, public figures, news agencies, et al. I'm quite happy that something like LinkedIn is separate from general purpose social media (imagine the self-aggrandizing spam otherwise, or having to sift past someone's holiday photos when wanting to see what's new in the corpo world). What's missing is something the same for any and all official messaging - imagine…

> What's missing is something the same for any and all official messaging - imagine something like Twitter, but for governments, various institutions, politicians, public figues and all that, a degree more separated from the regular and more individual content you often see on the "unprofessional" social media, almost like a news feed.

It exists and is called "a website". You can even host a Twitter-like microblogging platforms that allows others to follow your crap like https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by account42 »

mitxela wrote: post #907
pibaker wrote: post #45

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There should be a law mandating government agencies to not limit their electronic communications to private third party platforms. If they post something on Twitter, or worse, Facebook, they must also provide a copy of the post on their own website. Some kind of online government gazette, if you will. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_gazette

How would you define it so the internet wouldn't also be considered a third-party platform?

ISPs and infrastructure in the Internet are generally considered common carriers unlike social media platform who can do whatever they want. I don't understand why you think this would be hard to define at all.

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Post by b112 »

tovej wrote: post #940
benrutter wrote: post #918

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Yeah, that's a really good point that I hadn't really considered. Although, maybe the same argument stands? If X's lockdown leads to less users, then doesn't that translate to less control over the information landscape too?

Well, if one of the big social media platforms is now a far-right playground, that changes the political landscape. Elon Musk is using twitter to create a global far-right platform that right-wing politicians can use to experiment with talking points before watering them down and bringing them to the public.

All media orgs have X accounts, and see such things. And posts on X are in the news regularly.

So I don't think experimentation is an angle.

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by n_plus_1_acc »

philip-b wrote: post #474
DavCreator wrote: post #375

https://xxcancel.com is up and redirecting to working Nitter instances.

Is there a way to make Firefox autoredirect to that?

uBlock Origin can do it, no need for something else

https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBlock-issues/discussions/26...

Re: XCancel service is suspended until further notice

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Post by newswasboring »

mafuy wrote: post #915
caymanjim wrote: post #794

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It's basically impossible to not engage with any corporate products at all. It's trivially-easy to not engage with specific corporate products. I don't engage with Twitter, because I won't sign up and that makes it useless to me. I'm not missing out on anything I care about.

Just one example: Facebook is mandatory for school/university in large parts of Asia. You cannot trivially block them. They should be considered an utility.

How did facebook make its way into education like this? Can you explain to an outsider?
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