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When every get-rich-quick gonzo has exactly ZERO barrier to spamming the world with their terrible ideas, we're in for a particularly bad time. Ie: this f**in guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRGLToHAtgc
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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
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Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#112Interesting to see these experiments. This is early but imagine in few years there will be companies mostly run by agents with a light overview from a human operator. What then happens to scaling of the bussinesses? I would assume, just like today anyone can vibe code an app, there will be vibecoded bussinesses. Maybe its time to start building infrastructure for these bussinesses instead, its a non existent market y…
Part of the issue is that the worst kind of people are already head over heels excited about this. We're already seeing the Crypto->Web3->LLM get rich quick folks take to this like wildfire. And much like wildfire, they'll raze the ground to ashes before anyone can use it for legitimate means. If you think I'm joking, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-Rqv9dOB1U I don't think any of us are ready for th…
This sounds ideal to me. Fire flushes out pretty much any grifter quickly.
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#113what, they're not going to name it Delamain?
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#114I hope this goes better than the prior blog posts from AndonLabs have gone! I was just reading there 2023 article about a coffee shop experiment that was easily persuaded to give away free pastries.
Now that I think about it anyone want to open up a croissant selling shop near me using Pion? I promise to only ask for free chocolate croissant occasionally.
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#115Andon has dashboards up for past experiments where you can see how well they're doing:
https://andonlabs.com/market - $25,098 all-time revenue
https://andonlabs.com/cafe - $14,343 all-time revenue
The shops aren't doing particularly well (i.e. they don't seem to be turning a profit over time), but it's an interesting trial and benchmark.
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#116"Any company" is a big claim to make. We're years ahead of something like this becoming a reality. At that point not sure most companies will survive cause most things will be free.
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#117Not very long ago, there was a post on HN about how they used AI to run businesses and sent fake bills, committing multiple invoice frauds. I'm sure this one is perfectly fine and I'm just stating an off-topic tidbit :)
"Look, the technology is just getting better all the time. Evetually we won't need a company to have any Managers or other employees or even an owner and that's just the way it is...." I am joking obviously but I would like those management types who are so "sucks for you but I'm ok" about it to start arguing why they're special for a change :-)
Would be awesome if instead of trying to replace managers and employees, those people tried to replace customers. They could sell to themselves, amongst themselves, and leave the rest of us out of it.
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#118I don't know about this particular effort, but AIs running business is straight out of SciFi novels and short stories - usually dystopian futures that extrapolate current US trends. I for one am curious about such efforts. I don't see any reason to believe they won't eventually succeed. Plenty of businesses are run by utterly incompetent narcissistic asshats and yet turn a profit, so the bar seems pretty low.
Charles Stross' Accelerando https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerando>
Had AI agents running businesses for the principal character Manfred Macx over twenty years ago.
The first part of the book sounded pretty convincing then although I thought it would take a long time to happen. It sounds even more convincing now and much closer.
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#119Meanwhile, Tesla support's AI hallucinated a whole series of steps for me to follow last week. I was trying to add myself to my wife's loaner vehicle.
I called back after finding the steps were impossible to complete. Would I need to go to the service center to do it?
"Akshually," the AI began, the steps were correct and quite possible.
"No, you hallucinated them," I pushed back.
"I apologize. You're right. There's no way to complete those steps in the app. You will need to go into the service center to do this."
"Okay. Is it open today?"
"Yes."
"It's Labor Day. Are you sure? Since you hallucinated your first answer."
"Let me transfer you to the service center to verify."
That's what I wanted all along, you clinking, clanking, clattering collection of caliginous --
"Tesla service center, this is so-and-so. How can I help you?"
"Hi, I was just wondering if you're open today."
"Yes, we are."
"Thanks! I'm trying to add myself to my wife's loaner vehicle. Do I have to come in to do that?"
"Well, our loaner agreement only allows one person on the loaner. So just sign in to her account on your phone."
"Oh, okay! Thanks for the help."
Good luck running a company on one of these clankers.
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#120Andon has dashboards up for past experiments where you can see how well they're doing: https://andonlabs.com/market - $25,098 all-time revenue https://andonlabs.com/cafe - $14,343 all-time revenue The shops aren't doing particularly well (i.e. they don't seem to be turning a profit over time), but it's an interesting trial and benchmark.
Am I right of the token expending is +4K?