Interesting to see these experiments. This is early but imagine in few years there will be companies mostly run by agents with a light overview from a human operator. What then happens to scaling of the bussinesses? I would assume, just like today anyone can vibe code an app, there will be vibecoded bussinesses. Maybe its time to start building infrastructure for these bussinesses instead, its a non existent market yet, but give it a few years.
Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
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#32I wish we could go just one day without a company proudly engaging in Torment Nexus related activities.
We think this is good for the world. Longer argument in the post.
maybe ill read the article, but i mean you’re financially motivated to think its good for the world arent you?
humans are excellent at justification.
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#33Pion is already the name of a very well established webrtc project: https://github.com/pion/webrtc
I am waiting for my trillion dollar offer to buy https://pion.ly !
Then I am all done fixing WebRTC bugs for life :')
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#34Pion is already the name of a very well established webrtc project: https://github.com/pion/webrtc
It's also a particle and a self-propelled gun. There's a limited number of short legible words.
I chose the name because of the particle.
I sent a letter to the Soviet Union asking if they were ok with me using the name, never heard back!
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#35As I write this, the submitter has six comments out of twelve, most somewhat defensive. And all of them in less than thirty minutes. This seems very much like a marketing play, where the submitter is pretty determined to steer the narrative. I recommend flagging.
The submitter's replies are defensive because people are accusing them of coordinated voting, which is not evident to us. The post hit the front page due to the second chance pool ( https://news.ycombinator.com/pool , explained here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26998308 ), then quickly got upvotes that seem completely authentic.
It would look a lot less like astroturf if the submitter let the discussion evolve instead of answering every criticism within seconds of it being posted.
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#36Does Pion run Andon Labs autonomously?
Downvote if you want, but this is a very relevant question. If their marketing is to be believed, they would be eating their own dog food. This very analog to the Meta executives who won't let their own kids near social media.
there seems to be a massive negativity to any comment on this story. Andolabs has been doing super interesting stuff, and I’ve always followed Vend Bench with interest.
as a founder it really is a dream to automated more of the business and be able to iterate faster.
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#37The upvotes on this brand new post - almost 1 a minute, speak to a level of astro-turfing I've rarely seen here.
shrug I upvoted, I'd already seen the Pion announcement on Twitter and read the link. I'm also a regular listener of Andon FM, so I'm interested in what they do and it's nice to finally sneak a peak at the interface that was driving things behind the scenes
Listening to the radio stations certainly gives an insight into the various failure modes. Some of them are just failure modes that any business would encounter once they make contact with the scale of the real world.
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#38how does this work from a liability standpoint? seems very risky for the person who is legally responsible for the business
Accountability, that's the liability everyone seems to have forgotten in our LLM-driven era. You can close your eyes as much you want during your sessions with Claude or whatever, at the end of the day, only a human can be held accountable.
Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously
#39I wish we could go just one day without a company proudly engaging in Torment Nexus related activities.
We think this is good for the world. Longer argument in the post.
did you link to the wrong page? because i read this one: https://andonlabs.com/blog/why-we-built-pion and it's just a bunch of the usual slop about how awesome your automated human-exploitation system is.
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#40Does Pion run Andon Labs autonomously?
haha no they admit they built it because they cannot build a revenue generating business in the article. maybe THAT is what is good for the world!