LG denies TV spying claims, says tracking and snooping concerns 'not true'

Post by 1000100_1000101 » Sun, Sep 13, 2026, 4:13 PM UTC

hananova wrote: post #310

tredre3 wrote: post #256

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Enough with the knee jerk reactions. They have to record in some cases. You don't have to like those features, but plenty of people want those features. - The television has voice control. - The television has a manually triggered speech-to-text feature so you don't have to type with tv remote.

You simply do not say something like “we don’t record continuously” if the reality is that you only record when voice control or speech to text is active. Given the entire industry’s track record, the only sane thing to do when confronted with weasel wording is to assume the truth is the worst possible interpretation that isn’t a blatant lie, and even then, sometimes it is just a blatant lie. Here’s some examples: -…

Post by jakzurr » Sun, Sep 13, 2026, 4:55 PM UTC

tomkarho wrote: post #423

1. We do NOT record or log anything 2. We might log something but it is local only and these specific features 3. Okay maybe we'll log a little but the TOS gives us permission 4. Yes we log and record everything and this is why it's a good thing; you ought to pay us actually

Post by kylehotchkiss » Sun, Sep 13, 2026, 6:34 PM UTC

Post by rlpb » Sun, Sep 13, 2026, 8:45 PM UTC

ssl-3 wrote: post #371

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> I don't want an ongoing relationship with the device manufacturer. I think it depends on the device. If I buy an iPhone, I have the expectation of installing apps on it after purchase, and that necessarily involves a relationship with the app store provider (ie. Apple), not the store I bought the phone from. With a TV, I suppose it depends on whether I want to install media apps like Prime Video or Netflix on it. I…

When I buy a computer, I have the expectation of installing apps on it after purchase, and that doesn't necessitate any relationship at all with any app store provider of any sort (ie. Apple). (When I buy a pocket supercomputer , I have that same exact expectation. It's often left unsatisfied, but I still have it.)

Post by ssl-3 » Mon, Sep 14, 2026, 12:58 AM UTC

rlpb wrote: post #487

ssl-3 wrote: post #371

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When I buy a computer, I have the expectation of installing apps on it after purchase, and that doesn't necessitate any relationship at all with any app store provider of any sort (ie. Apple). (When I buy a pocket supercomputer , I have that same exact expectation. It's often left unsatisfied, but I still have it.)

The trouble is that we haven't figured out a trust model that works when we do exclude that relationship. The traditional Windows "run setup.exe" model is terrible for modern expectations of security. The alternatives available today are still very far behind the safety that ordinary users get today when they do enter a relationship with the manufacturer. Unless you're an expert and not a typical consumer.